Quote (Noob_Nova @ Jul 31 2010 09:12pm)

grief isn't better.

grief has a higher smite dmg.

LW is better. You can't say "you can use treachery to get your fade" because at the point that you do that you are then comparing LW to Grief + treachery....

LW is better for ubers hands down.

Quote (Noob_Nova @ Jul 31 2010 06:08pm)

Lets see. We farmed about 100 torches in the first couple weeks of the ladder.

1) treachery proc works. It is a pain in the ass. Sometimes it doesn't proc at all, and you must go to the other fire. Sometimes it procs immediately. Sometimes it takes 3 minutes.

2) a LT wand is for those that are desperate. You do not want to use a LT want unless you have too. The radius on the LT will suck. You are dealing with minions attacking you, along with the uber...

3) grief does not do huge dmg. you should have 95% CB. Not 75%

Fade LT Might CB > just dmg.

Quote (Synonym @ Jul 31 2010 11:11am)

True, but OW doesn't work with smite, you'll have to zeal them once for it

Quote (weez82 @ Jul 31 2010 09:14pm)

This says that OW works with smite http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=3532193&f=87 . Is this correct or is this info wrong?

Quote (Synonym @ 31 Jul 2010 19:15)

Ok let's summarize:

Grief is for real smiters.
LW is for morons who can't prebuff/pre-LT.

Quote (Synonym @ Jul 31 2010 08:15pm)

Ok let's summarize:

Grief is for real smiters.
LW is for morons who can't prebuff/pre-LT.

Quote (Synonym @ Jul 31 2010 02:13pm)

Why is it so hard for you the grasp the concept of a 5 second prebuffing?

Quote (halo273 @ Jul 31 2010 02:13pm)

lol u don't need 100% cb especially the fact the way grief mods add to smiters meaning ur dealing 8-9k + smite with 75% cb vs 2-3k smite with 100% cb ...

never hads any problems with a liftap wand before tbh easy + mass charges and because ur hitting constantly casting tap from gloves is not a problem.

also depspite this the link proves otherwise anyway.. not that it was needed anyway to prove it but it was calculated..

Quote (Synonym @ Jul 31 2010 02:15pm)

Ok let's summarize:

Grief is for real smiters.
LW is for morons who can't prebuff/pre-LT.

Quote (Noob_Nova @ Jul 31 2010 09:17pm)

massive experience with treachery thx. it is not 5 seconds



you should have 95% CB.

Your smite DMG isn't doing shit to the ubers, as you can see when their life gets low.

LT wand is a pain in the ass. I prefer to just charge in and smite...

Quote (Synonym @ Jul 31 2010 02:18pm)

lol

Quote (Noob_Nova @ Jul 31 2010 09:19pm)

dude. look at last wish

it is made for ubers.

blizzard made the weapon for ubers. its obvious.