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Aug 31 2009 03:59pm
dont you think 1200 life is reallyyyy low b4 bo??
shud be atleast 2k..
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Aug 31 2009 04:34pm
does this character have to suck alot of pots or does it have enough LL/ML to keep herself alive while just kicking?
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Quote (hazybud1 @ Mon, Aug 31 2009, 09:59pm)
dont you think 1200 life is reallyyyy low b4 bo??
shud be atleast 2k..


nah...
mass sorb+lifetap ftw :)
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Aug 31 2009 06:52pm
Quote (hazybud1 @ Mon, Aug 31 2009, 04:59pm)
dont you think 1200 life is reallyyyy low b4 bo??
shud be atleast 2k..


this will depend on a person charms and how carefully they stated. I said minimum of 1200 before bo/sages


@eep
this char doesnt need to use hardly on pots. My char using crafted gloves , coh had all the life leach and (4%) mana leach she needed to be self sufficent 95% of the time. Anything else was solved by the rare pot and or cobra strike. I play on hardcore mode so durability of a build is very important.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Aug 31 2009 06:53pm
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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Mon, Aug 31 2009, 07:52pm)
this will depend on a person charms and how carefully they stated.  I said minimum of 1200 before bo/sages


@eep
this char doesnt need to use hardly on pots. My char using crafted gloves  , coh had all the life leach and (4%) mana leach she needed to be self sufficent 95% of the time.  Anything else was solved by the rare pot and or cobra strike. I play on hardcore mode so durability of a build is very important.


I must say you have concocted a brilliant build that really piques my interest.

I'll have to give it a shot, maybe this ladder, and DEFINITELY next ladder...once things get calmed down a bit *cough duped runes*



edit: few more questions


do you personally use high lords or maras with the 15% ias jewel in the helm? And with your gloves, are they 10-20% ias to help you reach the bp?


Like, I'm not quite sure what the 8/3/3 BP is and what is required to hit it

This post was edited by Eep on Aug 31 2009 08:00pm
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Quote (Eep @ Mon, Aug 31 2009, 08:59pm)
I must say you have concocted a brilliant build that really piques my interest.

I'll have to give it a shot, maybe this ladder, and DEFINITELY next ladder...once things get calmed down a bit *cough duped runes*



edit: few more questions


do you personally use high lords or maras with the 15% ias jewel in the helm? And with your gloves, are they 10-20% ias to help you reach the bp?


Like, I'm not quite sure what the 8/3/3 BP is and what is required to hit it



Thanks, the build kicks arse , If you look at the the " How did season 1.12 Treat you Thread " You'lll see I'm no stranger to building characters, and you'd be hard pressed to find a build I havent tried. So with that preface, I make the claim that this build is one of the strongest in the game, and def. one the strongest sins you could configure regardless of cost to equip. Everyone that I know who's tried it all say the same. I provided a couple quotes summing that up in the guide intro.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=34506542&f=102

Onto the ias question. With 1 point bos and + gear means that you need 30 ias on your equipment to hit the second fastest total kick speed and the fastest followup kicks. The best speed a dtalon sin can get is 7frames on kick 1, then 3 frames on the additional kicks (up to 6 total). This sin will kick at 8 on the first , then 3 on followup which is termed 8/3/ . I use Cateye over highlords. The way I see it is Deadlystrike dosent work on dtalon and using goblin toe boots, the frw that's missing from those boots are covered here on the ammy. The dex helps hit max block saving you points to add in Vit. A worthwhile tradeoff imo. The remaining 10% ias I need comes from my gloves which also has duel leach and +1 martial arts skills. While these arent the easy item to craft or trade, it's totally worth it. The other option your left with a IAS jewel in your Nightwings. I prefer to pop a cold facet in this for more orb damage which is something you can only do if your using ias on your gloves (or nos belt)




(thanks kel, AB for the pic)


On an unrelated note , I pm'd the mod for this forum as it states in the FAQ to petition them for a guide for this char since it's missing from the jsp sin guides. Never recvd any kind of response back.

ISO sticky on this.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Sep 1 2009 03:30pm
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Sep 4 2009 01:50pm
:hello:


On an unrelated note , I pm'd the mod for this forum as it states in the FAQ to petition them for a guide for this char since it's missing from the jsp sin guides. Never recvd any kind of response back.

ISO sticky on this.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Sep 4 2009 01:51pm
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Sep 4 2009 04:17pm
Great Guide, thank you
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Sep 4 2009 04:49pm
Yeah this should definatly be stickied.
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Quote (CompanyOfThree @ Fri, Sep 4 2009, 05:49pm)
Yeah this should definatly be stickied.


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