Quote (Kunim @ Sun, Apr 19 2009, 11:31pm)

I made a version of this barb using a  Death Col Blade. Damage got to about 14k max on the with it. Thats 28k with deadly strike....which only happens w/ Death, gores, and highlords(which I don't reccomend, cause you will never hit) about 75% of the time. Where as my old old leaper, (the one using a T-maul) got 28k max damage, constantly. Now,  the chances of getting a deadly strike AND actually hitting is very slim(whatever chances or of hitting*3/4). Which overall will give less damage than Ebotd anyway. Now if you take away the highlords, to get more ar from angelics, (Which is HIGHLY reccomended), your deadly strike chance drops even more. Also, with masteries, using a ebotd, you still have about a 25% chance of crit.

Quote (hue_two @ Sun, Apr 19 2009, 06:59pm)

You could stick with the agelics, theres no reason to switch to highlords just because you are using death.

Botd eth Wp = 158 average, 415ed = 813 average
Death eth Cs = 137 average, 400ed = 685 average

Not sure how much off weapon ed u have, lets say 600 for now.

Botd eth Wp = 5691 average
Death eth Cs =4795 average

Double damage with botd is 1-(0.75*0.85) *100= 36%
Double damage with death is 1-(0.75*0.45) *100= 66%

Average for botd=5691*1.36=7739
Average for death=4795*1.66=7959

Also death gives 50% crushing blow.

Quote (Templar9 @ Sun, Apr 19 2009, 06:52pm)

Quote (Kunim @ Mon, Apr 20 2009, 12:06am)

I don't really follow a little bit of that math in the middle, but I'm going to assume its right. As you see the average damage is only off by 220 damage. However, the build is based on a one hit kill. So damage over time is not really what you want to look at. You want to look at max damage. Where Ebotd has a much higher difference. If you are unlucky to not get max hits most of the time, then the difference in damage over time is small enough to disregard. But for the purpose of the build Ebotd is better.



You are right sir. Even better. =P

Quote (hue_two @ Sun, Apr 19 2009, 07:13pm)

Well if the 1 hit kill is out of deaths range then you still won't get it very often with botd anyway.

Quote (Kunim @ Mon, Apr 20 2009, 12:16am)

No, you do. Death can still one hit, its just less often, and it can't one hit as many people. And speaking of range, that is another factor. Cb has a much lower range than Warpike. 3 compared to 5.

Quote (hue_two @ Sun, Apr 19 2009, 07:24pm)

Death will 1 hit more often util some life value and at that point the botd wp will be 1 hit killing really unfrequently so death is better imo.

But if u need the 5 range then obviously theres no comparison.