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Jul 13 2008 04:44pm
Stop mocking the poor man, seriously ^^

Good to see you cut some of it off. I don't think Chaos is neccesary on a trapper at all, but if that's what you prefer smile.gif
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Jul 13 2008 06:55pm
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1 pt in DTalon for cl, ow triggering and vs noblock chars.


the AR is atrocious, it's really not worth the skill point imo, fb is better for cl since it'll actually hit. ww is passable since it gets a lot more attacks per second than kicks, and it has movement advantages and such.

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Stop mocking the poor man, seriously ^^

Good to see you cut some of it off. I don't think Chaos is neccesary on a trapper at all, but if that's what you prefer smile.gif


lol eh, i don't really care, i think it's sorta hillarious that they put so much TIME into this stuff. You'd think they'd try to make a decent argument instead, it wouldn't take nearly as much time. instead, I'M always the one who ends up debating both sides since apparently no one else can figure it out. or they're not talking.

EDIT: btw what do you mean "cut some of it off"? I believe this is the longest version so far lol.

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lol eh, i don't really care, i think it's sorta hillarious that they put so much TIME into this stuff. You'd think they'd try to make a decent argument instead, it wouldn't take nearly as much time. instead, I'M always the one who ends up debating both sides since apparently no one else can figure it out. or they're not talking.

EDIT: btw what do you mean "cut some of it off"? I believe this is the longest version so far lol.


Indeed it is. But for instance the whole "Griffon vs. Valk" part is now a note, which is a good idea imo.
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Jul 13 2008 07:20pm
Quote (FnK @ Sun, Jul 13 2008, 05:11pm)
Indeed it is. But for instance the whole "Griffon vs. Valk" part is now a note, which is a good idea imo.


yeah, i'm sure people just wanting to read a guide don't wanna read all that crap, but if I don't have some sort of argument in there about griffs I always get a bunch of crap about it. and the notes section gave me a place to put all the info about my tests, like sm skill levels and CoS attributes, etc.

EDIT: not that it's ever really any different.

This post was edited by darcanegel on Jul 13 2008 07:22pm
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Jul 13 2008 07:40pm
horrible

just horrible
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Jul 13 2008 07:41pm
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horrible

just horrible


then earn yourself 27 fg and tell me why dry.gif

oh wait i forgot you're just sucking wukillabee's cock.
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then earn yourself 27 fg and tell me why dry.gif

oh wait i forgot you're just sucking wukillabee's cock.


because i saw you desperately attempt to duel with it and get slammed to pieces.

basically, theres no manifested application of your guide that actually functions well in actual e-realworld dueling...

in essence, there is 0 empirical evidence that your shitty char does what its purported to do, because the supposed character that provides the basis for the guide is just terrible.
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because i saw you desperately attempt to duel with it and get slammed to pieces.

basically, theres no manifested application of your guide that actually functions well in actual e-realworld dueling...

in essence, there is 0 empirical evidence that your shitty char does what its purported to do, because the supposed character that provides the basis for the guide is just terrible.


lol, not even sure which duel you're talking about. if you mean vs seedless, once I actually had on the correct gear i won 3:1. fuckin' rings all look the same...

I'll try to include videos for version 2 or 3 (lol version 3...)

honesty, i'd say i win about 95% of gm 1v1 private duels. ofc some builds are more difficult than others, but in general it's functioned very well for me. And I don't even put in nearly as much time as I could to practice (hence no strategy section atm).
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lol, not even sure which duel you're talking about.  if you mean vs seedless, once I actually had on the correct gear i won 3:1.  fuckin' rings all look the same...

I'll try to include videos for version 2 or 3 (lol version 3...)

honesty, i'd say i win about 95% of gm 1v1 private duels.  ofc some builds are more difficult than others, but in general it's functioned very well for me.  And I don't even put in nearly as much time as I could to practice (hence no strategy section atm).


how can you win 95% of gm 1v1 duels if you only won 75% of the duels vs seedless

btw, defensive play in a max block w/s trapper vs 20fcr/75res/no sorb bvc matchup is kinda sad

LOL
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how can you win 95% of gm 1v1 duels if you only won 75% of the duels vs seedless

btw, defensive play in a max block w/s trapper vs 20fcr/75res/no sorb bvc matchup is kinda sad

LOL


i still have no idea how you can claim I'm defensive. Did you pay any attention to the duel? Any time I wasn't making offensive moves, seedless did nothing offensive whatsoever. Why do you think the duels where I ran out of mana pots lasted forever? Once I couldn't play offensively, nothing happened because he wouldn't come after me if his life depended on it.

And seedless is one of the better barbs I've dueled, despite his defensive play...Marvel is also very good, he was able to beat me the majority of the time although that was without mb or max dr% build. There's maybe 2-3 other barbs I've dueled who were able to compete very well, most of them are fairly easy. Of course the majority of players are, well, bad. I don't duel only good players. And barbs (well good ones at least) are a difficult duel, I don't claim the build has no weaknesses.
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