Noobifiedknight, I'm missing the whole concept of your reply actually.

I covered the Battle command and melee vs caster skill lvl quite thoroughly in my guide. Bo'ing yourself means the shouting process, not specifically to Battle orders only. I did actually say Battle Command and figured people would understand it quite easily. I guess thx for pointing out the typo??? er... ya

As for the second part about "that guy" that said "this" and "that". Who are you referring to, where was it said, and why are you commenting on it in this thread? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to comment on it in the Player vs Player who's the best dueler thread?

And even if he did say that, why does he have to shut up? Isn't what he said just an opinion? And isn't what you just said ALSO just an opinion? Could it not be said by him that you should shut up? Just stating the obvious... peace

his name is h8er on page 3 seems like hes just spamming for gold.....
its not only my opinion its the truth think about it certain chars r best against certain chars


and ill just shut up now

I wasen't telling you to shut up, I was just pointling out that flaming an opinion is pointless.

Anyway, the best pvp character question is always a hot topic, but an un answerable question really.

Everyone has an opinion on it.

Mine goes to bone nec, but thats just me

I suggest using enigma sometimes for osme casters. Since dragon flight has casting delay.

The whole casting delay thing is way out of proportion. It affects nothing really. Only if your trying to DF over and over again will you notice it. Even then you won't really. But for 1 DF and ww, you won't notice it at all.

The only characters you Dragon flight are casters. Since their def is so low, you will hit almost every time. And you will be on top of them in the perfect spot every time to WW them. Why would you want to use enigma for teleport, when you have to aim it, sins cast horribly slow, and you don't get a hit with teleport.

Dragon flight does about 3K damage, and it hits a lot. Add to that the very good chance to do open wounds for another 2000 or so damage, and you can really hurt a caster with 1 DF.

DF is such an awesome skill. To not use it would be a waste. Its like when you see trappers with a shield

Weapon block has the ability to block everything in the game at a really high rate, all without putting one single point in dex, and you keep your block rate while running, attacking, dragon flighting, whatever. You block everything at ~60%.

To have a skill like that at your disposal, and not use it baffles me... Same with dragon flight. To not use it makes no sense at all

What boot do u use and how th eheck do u get 3k df... Did u max it?

MOST sorcs are gone by the time i dragon flight over

Vs melee chars, I would never use dragon flight so kick damage means nothing. I use gore riders for all melee duels for the deadly strike and open wounds.

For caster duels, dragon flight is simply the greatest skill there is. Half the time I won't even use WW against them. Just a few dragon flights and their done.


I use boneweave imp shanks, and I have points in dragon flight. My physical damage for dragon flight is about 1500, and then you add venom on top of that. Venom damage is like 1500. Sometimes if I put on +skill items to cast venom and shout, I can get my venom well over 2K.

Although venom damage isn't added on to the dragon flight damage on character screen, its there.

1500 Physical + 1500 poison over 0.4 seconds + 2000 physical from open wounds over 10 seconds = Dead caster

And since I have 101% open wounds, that is my damage for the first kick every time Also, DF has really high AR, so you will hit casters virtually every time with it.

Don't overlook it, even if your a WW'er. Dragon flight is invaluable.

The best example of overlooked skills for a ww'er is when you duel a bone necro. Most ww sins dragon flight with weak DF, and then try to WW them. Thats a sure fire way to get your ass handed to you.

Here's what you do as a WW sin vs a bone necro.

1) cast shadow master

2) dragon flight the necro

3) as soon as you appear next to them, DRAGON CLAW them. Don't use ww

4) every bone spirit they shot at you thats following you, will hit the shadow master, NOT YOU.


The only way this doesn't work is if they start to bone spear. In that case, run away, and just dragon flight the necro till they die. With that much DF damage, even with their bone armor the open wounds and venom damage will kill them pretty quick.

So remember, just cause your a WW sin, doesn't mean you have to use ww. Dragon flight, blade fury, dragon claw, all great skills to have. But Dragon flight being the best by far

This post was edited by xu-godx on May 10 2004 06:53pm

Duped scarab boots good for dragon flight or what type of boots do u suggest?

I have like low str