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DF is nice if you know HOW to use it right... but most people are stupid/unskilled enough and dont see its uses. I use it mainly vs sorcs/necs. This debate is similar to the one that says sins > all... but a noob dueler wouldnt ever understand that until they see it in person because they have "hdong #1" programmed so far up in their heads they need someone to prove it to believe it.

Quote (reyrol @ Nov 29 2011 09:25pm)

I dont know how to take this, if i dont agree with you im a stupid/unskilled or?...

lmk where you get df from if you use zbug + rare claws btw

about private realm, i dont think this belongs in here, since the d2pk claws & 08's, etc bring hybrid assa to another whole level, unlike barbs which are pretty much the same as on closed.
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imagine some1 isnt as godly player as you are that y never lost to a barb^^, if we agree w/s is the top choice against it for a trapper, then its worth for the cost of 12slots only, thats what i say and thats what i do, nothin else

plus i never said its a must or anything, i always said it is a possibility and in fact a good choice.

Quote (MoXeR @ 29 Nov 2011 17:53)

ur traps have like 7xxx dmg which is so low that you have to play this duel for like 10 mins to beat ur opponent so ur force to sit and w8 cause ur going to run ou of pots fast if you spam the field to much

ur facing a baba that is going to sniper you slightly offscreenusing using tg + coa

he is jumping and you step aside and watch him either miss you and changing his direction or he will hit and or 30-50% off
if he misses it gives you enough time to set some more traps and rechange ur positon to continoue or ur going to switch the area of the duel to rebuild ur web or dance arround him and pray he wont synch into you
repeat that 30 times and you have won...

so ur forced to hide and run while at the same time trying to keep ur potcount up
hide and run and having a attack that has hardly any impact...

the problem is that ur not applying any preasure under this conditions because you have no serious dmg sorce
ur opponent will very soon realize that and start playing more agressive and once he does your fucked because then you need to burn way to much mana for tele and you wont be able to even apply this slight preasure that you used to have
thats like playing a lvl 49 trapper vs a lvl 99 baba

it can happen that you win this
but then its not cause ur super awesome but because ur opponent played terrible
assuming ur both at the same experiance lvl i dont know how you are ever be possibly able to win this using mb setup

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now if i have the bow i can use gore along with it and a um in the bow
so i have 10% ow + 25% ow and 15% cb which all have a big impact on the lifecount of a baba along with the venom which is also lil...
anyways when u stand in ur web and shot 1 arrow when you feel save and then go to a save position and then shot another arrow then you did apply presure.

Quote (Azn Masta @ Nov 29 2011 10:56am)

Weren't you the one bitching about how I should update my guide and shit? now you're giving me this crap.

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As for max block vs barb... I never lost a single duel vs barb on my hybrid with c/c.... The reasoning for this is because I duel them just like a trapper but I have a hard as hitting whirlwind to back it up as well.... It is agreed that w/s trapper will beat barb for sure. but that requires WAY too much switching and its perfectly doable with c/c

This goes for USEAST, and D2PK, and ProjD barbs...

Quote (TaeYeoNie @ Dec 7 2011 03:11am)

Again quit making threads to characters you don't own. Or can ever afford.

Quote (n9neballking @ Dec 7 2011 03:06am)

ok, not reading thru 400 pages to get this answer :

what merc?

infinity/insight?
andy/gaze?
bramble/fort?