To be honest... a good and fully decked out hybrid will kill everything ez except a necro anyways....

vs necros i'd use a vis with 2x 30/60/9/9 jewels and swap out all the 20/5s for 32020s

as for bbelt/fcr ammy vs arach/highlords... i would like to test the damage diff myself but i cant since its realm specific. altho all those stats,dr, and other stuff will deff allow u to use jewels/charms that give more damage..... i just dont know how much exactly....

the main reason im considering bbelt though is for the flexibility to use more gear to boost AR..... a hybrids biggest flaw is the lack of AR..... a perfectly built hybrid (d2pk/projd version) will only have around 6k AR chaos side with 5x 36/20s in the inventory. They will have even less if you use 3x bmanas for ~800-900 mana so if one were to use bbelt, that would free up a few gc slots (not only for trap gcs, but for 32020s to jack that AR up to around 7k or 7.5k)...

The average caster is about 2k def... so with 7.5k ar = (7.5/2)/(7.5/2 +1) = 78.9% chance to hit (cth) vs 6k ar's 75% cth....
however vs a 3k def opponent (another sin) it would be 71.5% cth at 7.5kar vs 66.7% cth at 6k (too low)

ps imo, bbelt > dungos since 13 life rep is meh on a hybrid to be honest... (if i wanted to rep i use cta + doldoldoldol shield) but 13 rep alone really aint that much

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Oct 21 2011 08:37am

One question is it viable to play without venom for max claw mastery and add Drakul for play just Ow and physical dmg? on lvl95 assa

You can play 1pt venom with more into mastery and it will still work well (I only advise this for gclaw builds tho).

As for replacing trangs... That's a terrible idea because you need the 20fcr as well as the psn damage

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Oct 21 2011 10:19am

im considering this in my case for example

id lose almost half venom dmg

but id gain ~ +20% phys damage and my ar would raise from 12k/4,5k to 16,5k/6,5k a part from +1% critical ^^

will test it right after reset

Yeah! for that, need remove hl amu for +2 assa 20fcr 5% Ar + str +rez +mana regen 9% but i give 116% OW, + my (circlet +2 assa, 20fcr, 15ias, 30fhr, 70% Enhanced domage,20rez and 10%LL) +11%LL ring +10%LL drakul = 31% life Stolen. The life stolen it is viable too?

Very nice Guide Masta

This post was edited by lacapitale on Oct 21 2011 11:38am

there i go with exact numbers now



this is the damage comparison

you should subtract ravens cold damage from both claws in both cases and chaos's magic dmg which is 216 to 471.

so phys damage:

HIGHLORDS:
FOOLS: 561 - 1552
GCHAOS: 1093 - 1471

BUGBELT:
FOOLS: 695 - 1922
GCHAOS: 1354 - 1821
note that both dmgs are set with 10x 20/5's !!! i could use extra 3 20 20's in bugbelt setup maintaining resis, i'd have more dmg % ar in that case for bb setup !

in this screen im using 30ed 9dex 9str 4rep jools + 40ed /15 ias , so that i can reach 63%ias for wsm buged gchaos + ferals to stack the 10%slow from bb/arach (in europe everyone slows you with either belt ), i wouldnt be able to do that with hl setup since max ias id reach would be 60 from fools + hl

remember that with this numbers, on top of that, im making 700 more trap damage with bugbelt setup at the same time, a part from having more life more, res, more speed, etc

This post was edited by reyrol on Oct 21 2011 01:43pm

erm.. where have you taken account of highlords DS with those numbers?

facepalm

ofc you have to add the %ds to the hl built lol i didnt add critical either for both builts, thats on-screen dmg
so that you can make your own deduction / conclusion

This post was edited by reyrol on Oct 21 2011 02:03pm

well, it would be a good idea to do so as u dont need to be a sin expert to realise that the highlords setup without the DS does less damage

edit: and ofc i know its on screen damage, its your job ( as your doing a comparision ), to show the effect of DS on those numbers

"so that you can make your own deduction / conclusion" - What is your deduction?

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Oct 21 2011 02:04pm

i did this so azn could see the actual difference in screen dmg, just aply crit + ds / crit to those numbers

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This post was edited by reyrol on Oct 21 2011 02:07pm