The Gavel Demon: Reimagining Goldfind Barbarians - Topic

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Nov 26 2021 09:46am

Quote (kijix @ 26 Nov 2021 10:40)

not really trying to start a debate here. im just giving you my experience. it does more damage consistently for me, and its really not even close. also, I dont always amp damage. sometimes i get sick of repairing and throw on a Najs puzzler on swap since it gives more teleport (69 charges) . i still end up with 15-20 secs before the 90 sec timer kicks in and im sitting there waiting.

Random thought: did you try Spellsteel instead of Naj's? You get to Decrepify Phys Immunity with it. Might be relevant sometimes, and it's a 1fg item basically.

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Nov 26 2021 09:48am

Quote (Exokek @ Nov 26 2021 10:46am)

Random thought: did you try Spellsteel instead of Naj's? You get to Decrepify Phys Immunity with it.

i didnt, but its a good thought-- sucks only 20 charges on it but combined with the amulet its not bad. ill see if i have one on a mule

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Nov 26 2021 09:49am

Quote (kijix @ 26 Nov 2021 10:48)

i didnt, but its a good thought-- sucks only 20 charges on it but combined with the amulet its not bad. ill see if i have one on a mule

Yeah; I tend to favor Teleport Amulet/Circlet since you never need to swap out of your Goldfind/Magic Find sticks. Occasionally the Merc lands kills when you're on swap gear and you lose out on the extra gold, but Spellsteel can be a decent alternative since it comes with Decrep.

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Nov 26 2021 02:24pm

Quote (Exokek @ 26 Nov 2021 03:42)

i'm also really enjoying the A5 Merc atm with Headstriker, it's kinda fun with 120ED/170GF helmet, since he scales damage a LOT
15IAS/40ED in Upped Eth Headstriker + 120ED/170GF helmet + CoH blasts face

I probably won't give it a try, but pretty interesting!

Quote (Exokek @ 26 Nov 2021 16:46)

Random thought: did you try Spellsteel instead of Naj's? You get to Decrepify Phys Immunity with it. Might be relevant sometimes, and it's a 1fg item basically.

I found one Speelsteel in the beginning of d2r, threw it away, then bought one for 10 fg, now I throw it away again = profit

(not for me lol)

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Nov 26 2021 04:13pm

Any napkin math available for the a5 barb? Seems fairly irrelevant if using eth headstriker because you're going to want to hit the 42 IAS breakpoint which means that you want a 40/15 in the weapon and 2x 40/15s and a Rare jewel in a 3os helm, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can actually plug into excel and fiddle with.

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Nov 26 2021 04:21pm

Quote (Footspeedy @ 26 Nov 2021 17:13)

final_max_damage = [(base_weapon_max_damage * Eth * (1 + weapon_ED%)* 2 + base_merc_max_damage + max_damage*3 + normal_damage) * (1 + non-weapon_ED% + str/100 + skill_ED%) * DS + Bash_bonus + elemental_damage_max] * CS

Basically there's a doubling of weap dmg, and a tripling of minDamage-maxDamage on weapons. So a weapon that would say +500-500 damage would add 1500 weapon dmg.

Grief adds flat dmg rather than min-max, so it doesn't get tripled sadly.

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Nov 26 2021 11:05pm

Alright

Vessy123

and

Footspeedy

, hear me out.
Instead of Tiara of the Lamprey (3os 8% LL) or Tiara of Wealth (

)...

A5 Merc
Eth Upped Headstriker, socketed with 15IAS/40ED
Eth Upped Arreat's Face, socketed with 15IAS/40ED (or 40ED/30Goldfind)
Eth Upped Black Hades with 120ED/90Goldfind jewels (lots of AR/Demon Damage & a built-in pseudo-Cham) OR Eth Wealth Archon Plate (raw $$$)

Tested that setup tonight.

Arreat's gives:
- 6% Life Leech
- 30% All Resists
- More AR/Dex for the Merc
- WAY Better Defense than a Tiara (15% chance to be hit by Super Uniques with Hades/Arreat's vs. 25% on Tiara/CoH)

- If using Crown of Thieves, our Merc's Lightning Resist vs. the frequent Lightning Enchanted becomes garbage unless we shore it up with a Rare Jewel with Golfind/Lightning Resist.
- If using Tiara of Wealth, we need life leech from either an Amn Rune in the Headstriker, or from Chains of Honor.
- If using Tiara of the Lamprey & use anything but Fort/CoH, our Merc's Resists become unbearably garbage garbage.

With Arreat's, we cover all the Resists & Life Leech in one slot, and we're free to put DPS/Goldfind jewels everywhere.

At level 82, A5 Merc's Resists are capped with Arreat's even if you're using a freaking Wealth.

Just a thought. Mercenary was wrecking a bit harder than I anticipated.

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Nov 27 2021 12:23am

Would Max Damage jewels also get multiplied by the triple bonus? or just the one in the weapon?

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Nov 27 2021 01:23am

Quote (Exokek @ Nov 26 2021 09:05pm)

Alright ^Vessy123 and ^Footspeedy, hear me out.
Instead of Tiara of the Lamprey (3os 8% LL) or Tiara of Wealth ( :( )...

A5 Merc
Eth Upped Headstriker, socketed with 15IAS/40ED
Eth Upped Arreat's Face, socketed with 15IAS/40ED (or 40ED/30Goldfind)
Eth Upped Black Hades with 120ED/90Goldfind jewels (lots of AR/Demon Damage & a built-in pseudo-Cham) OR Eth Wealth Archon Plate (raw $$$)

Tested that setup tonight.

Arreat's gives:
- 6% Life Leech
- 30% All Resists
- More AR/Dex for the Merc
- WAY Better Defense than a Tiara (15% chance to be hit by Super Uniques with Hades/Arreat's vs. 25% on Tiara/CoH)

- If using Crown of Thieves, our Merc's Lightning Resist vs. the frequent Lightning Enchanted becomes garbage unless we shore it up with a Rare Jewel with Golfind/Lightning Resist.
- If using Tiara of Wealth, we need life leech from either an Amn Rune in the Headstriker, or from Chains of Honor.
- If using Tiara of the Lamprey & use anything but Fort/CoH, our Merc's Resists become unbearably garbage garbage.

With Arreat's, we cover all the Resists & Life Leech in one slot, and we're free to put DPS/Goldfind jewels everywhere.

At level 82, A5 Merc's Resists are capped with Arreat's even if you're using a freaking Wealth.

Just a thought. Mercenary was wrecking a bit harder than I anticipated.

Yeah this actually was my thought for the easy budget version of this build. Finding the right jewels for hades will be tough when more than one person is buying them I think lol.

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Nov 27 2021 01:37am

Quote (Footspeedy @ Nov 26 2021 10:23pm)

Would Max Damage jewels also get multiplied by the triple bonus? or just the one in the weapon?

I think max damage jewels work as well, or min damage.

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