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Oct 29 2008 07:10pm
Pure dex zon will never have -100 resists, -50 is the lowest (3xanya, 10 torch, 10 anni)
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Oct 29 2008 08:10pm
Quote (koei @ Wed, Oct 29 2008, 08:10pm)
Pure dex zon will never have -100 resists, -50 is the lowest (3xanya, 10 torch, 10 anni)


anya loses effect when u die once in a game. so ur goign to have lower than that.
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Oct 29 2008 08:28pm
1 Dex = 1ED
+ 625% Ed from Gear...get good.
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Oct 29 2008 09:48pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Wed, Oct 29 2008, 07:42pm)
if for w/e reason, a glass zon might ber their ss, thats 43 dr on switch only, 35 if they dont ber ss. With bow out they have 0% dr = ur fucked if u get attacked even once, twice if ur lucky.
As for res.. on a glass zon u cant get high res without fuckin up some of ur stats.. and u wont get stacked res successfully like a vita zon.

on top of all this ur reducing damage being done to 1k or so life... a strong attack can make it seem like those res/dr u have dont even exist... You think a u can tank a 22k or so fb with 75 res but only 1k life? Ull be lucky if u have a hair of life left. We have 3.5k + life, so that damage reduce stuff like DR and resist will have decent life to work with.


You are absolutely right, the only bowazon armor that exists is fortitude, lets not forget how CoA is an absolute godly helm with it's low STR req, and oh and dex zons with virtually the same gear possibilities as vita zons cant have the same res/dr!

Seriously though, a good dex bowazon doesn't touch fortitude, ( not to mention its bm bowa vs bowa legit duels ) Let's also take Kira's Diadem into account, if you use 160/60 + Kira's you gain more res and keep 7 frame with GMB faith... and you have verdungos ;O! If you use cats eye you can use a rare jewel for a 150/45/othermodded ( dex, all res, 30 > fire res, light res, cold res, life, min damage ) 100 life armor...

I have done tests, I can get about the equal average with a fort zon based build as I can with a 160/60 zon based build, but just remember 160/60 means a great deal of flexibility a GREAT deal.

Quote (Mattd90 @ Wed, Oct 29 2008, 09:10pm)
anya loses effect when u die once in a game. so ur goign to have lower than that.


That applies to Vita zons as well ;3, by the way Matt you look familiar, I think i've killed your Vita zon ;p

This post was edited by Engel on Oct 29 2008 09:51pm
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1 Dex = 1ED
+ 625% Ed from Gear...get good.


oh my bad, i must have forgot the "get good" in my guide......*rolls eyes*

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anya loses effect when u die once in a game. so ur goign to have lower than that.


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That applies to Vita zons as well ;3


Yep, thats why this guide stacks the res well past 75 for all of the 4 resistances.

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Quote (Engel @ Wed, Oct 29 2008, 10:48pm)
You are absolutely right, the only bowazon armor that exists is fortitude, lets not forget how CoA is an absolute godly helm with it's low STR req, and oh and dex zons with virtually the same gear possibilities as vita zons cant have the same res/dr!

Seriously though, a good dex bowazon doesn't touch fortitude, ( not to mention its bm bowa vs bowa legit duels ) Let's also take Kira's Diadem into account, if you use 160/60 + Kira's you gain more res and keep 7 frame with GMB faith... and you have verdungos ;O! If you use cats eye you can use a rare jewel for a 150/45/othermodded ( dex, all res, 30 > fire res, light res, cold res, life, min damage ) 100 life armor...

I have done tests, I can get about the equal average with a fort zon based build as I can with a 160/60 zon based build, but just remember 160/60 means a great deal of flexibility a GREAT deal.


Well for one, this zon doesnt need to switch gear, its meant for ZvA, which means it can handle all chars at any time. a zon like u say with all this switch might prove to be good, but when u have stack res gear on, ur gonna do shit against a melee char, and vice versa if u had DR and anti physical gear against a caster. This zon can handle any char at any time... shes not restricted for ZvZ, thats not the point of her... the point of her is to own priv games and most importantly those annoying pubs where everyone bms.

Also, the increased capability to use DR and RES on this zon with her much much higher life, far passes the tankability of a glass zon with her shit life and possibly if she decides to wear an 08 gaze or a kiras... that survival over time will allow us to output more damage than ur glass zon and her 1-2k more damage. Just read the guide and all ur questions will be answered.
You cant read a strip of the guide and expect to understand it completely.


Quote (Engel @ Wed, Oct 29 2008, 10:48pm)
That applies to Vita zons as well ;3, by the way Matt you look familiar, I think i've killed your Vita zon ;p


Ive killed many, alot more than ive died, so it would be hard to say who u are, even if u gave me a name.
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Oct 30 2008 03:53pm
Mattd90, I can only agree that a Vita > Glass in Pub's.
I don't pub much...I manly 2v2 / 4v4 and 1v1 BETs
In ZvZ any good Glass w/ Good Skills > any good Vita w/ Good Skills
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Oct 30 2008 06:04pm
Quote (S3th @ Thu, Oct 30 2008, 04:53pm)
Mattd90, I can only agree that a Vita > Glass in Pub's.
I don't pub much...I manly 2v2 / 4v4 and 1v1 BETs
In ZvZ any good Glass w/ Good Skills > any good Vita w/ Good Skills


Whether its pubs or privs or any team game, a vita zon in all cases does better except 1, and thats ZvZ.
ZvZ is the only time where a glass matches the ability of a vita, or in some cases surpasses it. But since ZvZ relies on an incredible amount of luck for when d/a/e and crit kick in...
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Oct 30 2008 06:10pm
In my 4v4...

Druid - 205% Oak
BvC - 165% Bo
Glass = 1,300 Life

With those two bonuses a glass zon's life is fine for 4v4, and deals more damage then a vita.
Sure a vita can tank a few more hit's but through out the whole match the Glass will out damage it, and really in 4v4 hard to kill a zon, if your team is good.
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Oct 30 2008 06:13pm
Quote (S3th @ Thu, Oct 30 2008, 07:10pm)
In my 4v4...

Druid - 205% Oak
BvC - 165% Bo
Glass = 1,300 Life

With those two bonuses a glass zon's life is fine for 4v4, and deals more damage then a vita.
Sure a vita can tank a few more hit's but through out the whole match the Glass will out damage it, and really in 4v4 hard to kill a zon, if your team is good.


Ok, if i had the same team as u my life would go up just like urs but far much higher... then throw in the more res + dr i have than u. I can do plenty of damage in 4v4's with my damage alone, 5k doesnt tickle... and if i have a hammer for conc or nec for amp, im gonna hurt like a glass zon or more, but tank more. And by ur logic if i have a good team, my vita zon should be hard to kill... which it is. But it should be even more harder to kill than ur glass because of its tanking abilities.
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