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Nov 28 2017 05:20pm
Quote (triunes @ Nov 28 2017 03:18pm)
you guys are converting the dps after dr is applied to some end mulptiplier, , which is a fallacy as I have mentioned already

0% DR = 100dmg-> with amp 200dmg (x2.00)
10% DR = 90dmg -> with amp 190dmg (x2.11)
20% DR = 80dmg -> with amp 180dmg (x2.25)
30% DR = 70dmg -> with amp 170dmg (x2.43)
40% DR = 60dmg -> with amp 160dmg (x2.67)
50% DR = 50dmg(X) -> with amp 150dmg(Y) (x3.00)

for some reason u find it necessary to divide Y by X and think the result is a valid #, its not, thats why u end up with this illogical conclusion that you are doing triple the dmg with DR,

youre only doing 1.5x the damage, because 150/100(original unchanged amount) = 1.5



Triunes honestly calm down, take a step back and think. Its ok to admit you’re wrong.

Edit: I’d seriously go respect you if you could just say whoops and let it go. So far you look like a clown

This post was edited by phaedrus420 on Nov 28 2017 05:22pm
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Nov 28 2017 05:24pm
Quote (triunes @ Nov 28 2017 05:18pm)
you guys are converting the dps after dr is applied to some end mulptiplier, , which is a fallacy as I have mentioned already

0% DR = 100dmg-> with amp 200dmg (x2.00)
10% DR = 90dmg -> with amp 190dmg (x2.11)
20% DR = 80dmg -> with amp 180dmg (x2.25)
30% DR = 70dmg -> with amp 170dmg (x2.43)
40% DR = 60dmg -> with amp 160dmg (x2.67)
50% DR = 50dmg(X) -> with amp 150dmg(Y) (x3.00)

for some reason u find it necessary to divide Y by X and think the result is a valid #, its not, thats why u end up with this illogical conclusion that you are doing triple the dmg with DR,

youre only doing 1.5x the damage, because 150/100(original unchanged amount) = 1.5


where did you get the sliding scale for damage? the comparison is the same damage, not less and less as the DR increases.

0 dr + amp'd + 100 dmg attack

50 dr + amp'd + 100 dmg attack

that's the same damage. you just made up the declining damage total.
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Nov 28 2017 05:27pm
Quote (phaedrus420 @ Nov 18 2017 10:39pm)
attack dmg = 100 // monster has 50% dr // effective dmg = 50
If choose Amp -> Triples attack from 50 to 150 :) winner
If choose 2.5x -> 50 x 2.5 = 125

attack dmg = 100 // monster has 0% dr // effective dmg = 100
If choose Amp -> Doubles attack from 100 to 200
If choose 2.5x -> 100 x 2.5 = 250 :) winner

conclusions
Nice little riddle. Shows that more dmg reduction always means less dmg taken (ignoring exceeding certain caps), and that the effectiveness of amp is most noticeable on 50 %DR builds.

100dmg attack
0% DR = 100dmg -> with amp 200dmg (x2.00)
10% DR = 90dmg -> with amp 190dmg (x2.11)
20% DR = 80dmg -> with amp 180dmg (x2.25)
30% DR = 70dmg -> with amp 170dmg (x2.43)
40% DR = 60dmg -> with amp 160dmg (x2.67)
50% DR = 50dmg -> with amp 150dmg (x3.00)
60% DR = 50dmg -> with amp 140dmg (x2.80)
70% DR = 50dmg -> with amp 130dmg (x2.60)
80% DR = 50dmg -> with amp 120dmg (x2.40)
90% DR = 50dmg -> with amp 110dmg (x2.20)
100% DR = 50dmg -> with amp 100dmg (x2.00)
110% DR = 50dmg -> with amp 90dmg (x1.80)



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Nov 28 2017 05:28pm
Quote (phaedrus420 @ Nov 28 2017 06:20pm)
Triunes honestly calm down, take a step back and think. Its ok to admit you’re wrong.

Edit: I’d seriously go respect you if you could just say whoops and let it go. So far you look like a clown


maybe u should take another bong toke and contemplate uranus,
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Nov 28 2017 05:29pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 28 2017 06:24pm)
where did you get the sliding scale for damage? the comparison is the same damage, not less and less as the DR increases.

0 dr + amp'd + 100 dmg attack

50 dr + amp'd + 100 dmg attack

that's the same damage. you just made up the declining damage total.


its where you geniuses are getting the triple the damage bit

i didnt make it up
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Nov 28 2017 05:32pm
And i know im the 500th person to state this, but:

If you have 50%DR and you get hit for 100 damage, while amped, you will take 150 damage instead of 50 damage.

150 is 3x50 (i know big numbers, but most phones have calculators built in - try for yourself)
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Nov 28 2017 05:33pm
Quote (triunes @ Nov 28 2017 05:29pm)
its where you geniuses are getting the triple the damage bit

i didnt make it up


no. it's not.

0 dr + 100 dmg attack = 100 dmg + amp curse = 200 dmg (200/100=2, aka double)

50 dr + 100 dmg attack = 50 dmg + amp curse = 150 dmg (150/50=3, aka triple)

however 150 < 200, so the 50 DR helps.
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Nov 28 2017 05:35pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 28 2017 03:33pm)
no. it's not.

0 dr + 100 dmg attack =100 dmg + amp curse = 200dmg (200/100=2, aka double)

50 dr + 100 dmg attack = 50 dmg + amp curse = 150 dmg (150/50=3, aka triple)

however 150 < 200, so the 50 DR helps.



So atleast 2 of us can use calculator.

I doubt triunes has figured out how calculator works yet tho
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Nov 28 2017 05:38pm
Maybe it helps to know that amp doesn’t do double damage. But -100% physical resistance.

@triunes anything click yet? We can keep trying. Only 388 posts deep
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Nov 28 2017 05:54pm
This was an amazing thread.
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