however with a wisp on hybrid, the duel is much more fair

but even with tgods on a ghost, the trapper still had adv

but with a wisp on a ghost, its a close call when dueling hybrids

thus: Ghost > Hybrid > Trapper > Ghost (which makes it perfectly fair lol)

ok

what about %plr ?

er....

25% for all v all

25% for trapper v ghost

25% for trapper v hybrid

0% for ghost v ghost (or 25% is fine too, but lots of people bitch about this one cuz they use poison build instead of physical like i do)

0% for hybrid v hybrid

0% for hybrid v ghost

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 5 2011 07:09am

For those who kept up with my guide and all the new ideas/theories that everyone proposed to me. I have tried them all, here is what I've decided:

1) Gface is the best helm for sin v sin (minus 700+ def eth vis etc that is impossible for people to get w/o importing)
2) 30ED/60AR/9Str/9Dex Jewels > 40/15 + Ber build - However, each jewel costs 8500fg or $99.95 from lewt.... only the most hardcore sin plays would resort to this (Its better, but not THAT much better)
3) Shadow Dancers + Gface > Gores + Circlet for 99.9% of ghosts in sin v sin (people like drakemillers can use diff gear since they have un real items, but the majority wont have access to such)
4) Its best to have around 6k+ AR for sin v sin. Try to get nothing lower than that for effective hits w/ chaos
5) Good Fools > Gfury for sin v sin. A good cruels claw may be used, but only if its like 400+ damage and 2soc... If u have to zod it and lose out on ow or something, stick with fools

Below are screenshots of my finalized set up after all the tests. The build in the s/s uses 30ED/60AR/9/9 Jewels in circlet + gface, but since those jewels are "not worth it" for the little bonus they give vs the price they cost, I will keep the 40/15 + ber setup in my guide for "normal" users. (AR is shown only for chaos side, fools AR is 16k for circlet and 14k for gface respectively)

BPs Hit: 61% Block, 50% DR, 65% FCR, 27% FHR,
Skills: lvl 20 mindblast, 1 pt dclaw, 1 pt dflight, 1 pt ls, 1 blade shield




BPs Hit: 61% Block, 49% DR, 42% FCR, 48% FHR,
Skills: lvl 20 mindblast, 1 pt dclaw, 1 pt dflight, 1 pt ls, 1 blade shield



This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 8 2011 08:40pm

Awesome guide. i have dueled this sin before and know first hand its capabilities. Bui has the only sins to give my BVB a decent fight. I have built my Ghost using this guide and its by far the superior build. Good job Bui, your sins are the superior sin in BNet.

my new setup allows me to use um'd widowmaker vs non enigma barbs

they can never catch me

so i think my hardest duel NOW would be a enigma barb w/ ss (altho i havent seen one in a loooooong time) and decent fcr

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 9 2011 05:51am

any suggestions for a suitable replacement for the 3/20/20s on ladder?

are 32020s not availible on ladder?

u can use 3max/20ar/xx life or 132ar/45 life or 10max/xxar/xxlife etc

in contrast to what most people think, max damage is nice, but its somewhat overated. AR is your friend and most people overlook it, thinkin that their fools alone i enough. well with a fools claw, u can hit (and it will show green when u ww them) but if u only hit with fools and miss w/ chaos, ur basically give up the other half of ur damage source.

use whatever max/damage/life lc,gc,sc combo u can find, but get at least 6k ar for sin v sin setup and try to aim for 7k+ ar for overall setup (with chaos)

It's impossible to find a 2os fools w/ knockback

kb isnt required, its just a perk (and most of the time, people arent good enough to get kb to work properly in actual duels anyways for ww) so its not a HUGE loss to not have it

you want a feral or runic with mods in this order of importance:
fools'
high damage (my claw is only mid range, u wanna aim for something in the 300+ damage)
30+IAS
2soc
kb
skills (if u can find something w/ +2sin or +2 shadow skills, the sin v sin setup would get 50% DR instead of the 49% its currently getting)

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 9 2011 06:41am