shut up rofl your advice blows

p.s. 20/11s for lyfe (except in gay ass pubs lmao)

This post was edited by Tails chao on Jan 24 2011 11:14am

lol on the ew maras

also ya i know its a good ammy but read on what im saying above.. my ammy is 2 sin 28 str 40 life all res 17% and LR 52% that 28 str is put into my build thus i cant put a highlords in for a swap..

and the only time id use a fools over a fury is if it was +skills 20-40%ias depending on claw 250+ed fools and 2os and so far that hasnt come across me yet.. and like u said just put 1 ber in my helm which i did and that gives me 43%dr if i dont put those 7 points into fade to reach 50%dr so those 7 points could be saved if i dual ber it and put those 7 points into shock and 2 points into WB to reach 60% only at 59% now



and lol and also i do got plenty of 20/9-11% res ranging from lite/fire/cold in stash got about 10 of these but not all res ones..


ISO MORE OPINIONS tytyty

This post was edited by rev0lution on Jan 24 2011 12:58pm

Ideally you should be using HL as main @_@ it really is that good of an amulet. You lose like +1 trap skill damage but gain sooo much physical damage, 20 ias (lets you use suw/feral=even more damage), it gives you +35% res of the most useful element and +1 bo is basically like +life/+mana anyway.

if you -really- want a stash amulet then don't build around the str and just treat it as ED%.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Jan 24 2011 01:03pm

That's why I told you to get a +strength ring.
You don't need a fools claw all of the time. Use it when needed.
Didn't know you already had a ber in your helm. 43 DR is fine though, you don't really need 50% all of the time.

hmm im trying to gain more life but i guess if i go the ring root with str ( which im trying to do already ) i can put a highlords on was also thinking of keeping the ammy with 28 str gain 20 str from ring and put almost 0 points into str for more life..

ill do some tests with highlords tho and the LR 35% on highlords isnt as good as 52% LR from my ammy

that 20 ias from the ammy only helps if u find a fools claw with 0 ias and if its a suwayahh cause feral/RT/GT as a fools claw hits 4 ww frame ne ways ( at least with that assassin calculation site ) cant remember how much ias u need to hit 9 frame trap laying speed on both claws tho so ya that 20ias from HL might help this correct me if im wrong plz



ya i dont like fools claws that much to be honest unless i can find one that i stated above

and if i stay at 43%DR i can up my trap dmg since ill be losing 1 skill with using highlords so basically ill even out even with more dmg most likely..

but my question is i wanna c what pple think is 43%DR enough and to gain 50%dr for certain situation what would u use mithril coil ? not 100% sure i wanna lose 50% dr in all situation tho i hate switching gear based on encounter but ill do it if it really helps my sin

which is why im asking you guys since this basically is my first sin better off asking u pple then randos in game or what not

also im at 59%WB i need to add 2 points in it to get 60%WB is it worth it? or should i get WB on one of my claws also i find DF helps alot vs sorc's etc not sure if i wanna sub out DF for WB on my fury and to find WB on my chaos is just a pain lookin for another claw yet again.. lol

This post was edited by rev0lution on Jan 24 2011 01:47pm

More life is nice, no lie, but I dunno a lot of things are definitely important. the damage boost is really big so I personally feel that it's worth it (especially since your whirl is weaker than a well built ghost's).

but yeah a str ring is definitely a good idea

here's a few statistics regarding ias:

you need 19 ias with suwayyah/runic wsm bug (this allows you to use a 0 ias fools as you already mentioned)
however with suwayyah/feral you need 42 ias... this means you need 30+ ias on a feral and 20 from your amulet (unless you give up a ber for a ias jewel), so in that way it indirectly boosts your claw dmg.

I think 50 dr (two bers) is best, but I do agree with Bryant in that 43% dr is definitely acceptable, if you were to use 43 dr I would still boost up trap dmg over putting extra points in fade (since you lose like a lot of LS damage due to how tgod works).

same thing with wb, just put the points into LS

This post was edited by Tails chao on Jan 24 2011 01:51pm

hmmm are u guys on East ladder to do some test in game ?

also is ur sin sitting at 50%dr at all times cause that would mean dual ber circs or using coa which imo isnt good enough unless ur circ sucks..

im tossing between what u guys are mentioning more ww dmg less life or what i wanted to do b4 i actually asked for opinions on this topic was trying to gain more life with a str ring tbh

now im confused lol to get 50%dr now would mean i have to take arach off lose 1 skill and 20fcr gain life tho from belt but still slow fcr which should be ok cause if u think about it u would only use DR gear vs melee and fcr isnt needed as much vs them hmm

all this is hurting my brain lol

and that 42ias u need is for 9 frame traps correct cause everything basically hits 4 ww frames.. 15ias is all thats needed in a suwayahh fools to get 4 ww frames\

also the way ive been playing is since ww dmg is low on a hybrid i was more of a guy who relied on my poison and OW's and traps instead of traps and high ww dmg.. imo OW is whats most important on a hybrid but hey like i said first sin so i could be wrong but thats what my thoughts were since ww dmg is lower then a ghosts

This post was edited by rev0lution on Jan 24 2011 02:00pm

i have a character on all realms (nl)

its 50 dr with 65 fcr, i use a berber circ AND using arachs but my hybrid is on a priv server (I don't like hybrids enough to buy one on realms), on realms without a +fade fools claw you might hit like 47~ dr instead which is perfectly fine.

experiment and choose what you feel is best, more dmg/more life, but the one thing you should notice is that hl gives significantly stronger tri wws.

yes it's for traps, suwayyah fools is a bad idea (it should be chaos suwayyah/feral or runic secondary with wsm bugging to make chaos secondary) and you should definitely socket all of your claws with Ums for OW, which leaves you with putting the ias jewel in a circ (losing a ber rune).

/e psn/ow damage is kind of like old school 2005 sins style when no one understand the raw potential of physical damage on sins. since then people have experimented with more physical oriented builds and experience has shown that phys damage>poison damage, ow however is still considered very significant and you should get as much as possible from your claw sockets.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Jan 24 2011 02:03pm

only thing i can see me doing would be getting both claws with +3fade getting about 46-47%dr gotta do the math for a 100% number on DR BUT getting a GT/RT/Feral fury claw with these mods will be tough

i dont plan on dual bering my circ since ill lose 20 life and 15 all res plus that jewel cost me 150fg lol

but im really iso a fcr str life ring right now also im gonna lose some life with all these exchanges i think but it might even out who knows..

still iso opinions on everything always open to suggestions even thru pm's if need be thx

This post was edited by rev0lution on Jan 24 2011 02:59pm

i have bui's build sin on east ladder.
cept i'm poor so i have 3x 2/20/2 circlets lol.
jah/jah
ber/ber
lo/lo (yes this is amazingly gm in east ladder lololol)

ima get a thul thul one, too cause no 15%fcr amulet to back up kira's.

This post was edited by MajSlayer on Jan 24 2011 08:31pm