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Dec 12 2010 12:03pm
Quote (tudey @ Dec 12 2010 05:58pm)
I guess those trappers are not using maxblock vs you? maxblock much harder than claw/claw and trappers have the ability to use it, hybrids cant without losing ww


and using a max mindblast build... you lose only 2 skills (talon, dclaw) so it isnt hard to switch over to a max block build.
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and using a max mindblast build... you lose only 2 skills (talon, dclaw) so it isnt hard to switch over to a max block build.


You dont use those skills vs bow anyway?
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Dec 12 2010 12:06pm
Quote (tudey @ Dec 12 2010 06:58pm)
I guess those trappers are not using maxblock vs you? maxblock much harder than claw/claw and trappers have the ability to use it, hybrids cant without losing ww


Maxblock or not, I rape most trappers even though I play amazon for 3 days (not on hell difficulty though, no bb/shit eq/shit res so I am 1-shot for most ele chars). I tank them ez assuming I ever get hit, which I don't. But vs ww I can't do shit. I have random eq, so can take 50% hp of the hyb at most till she jumps me. I am even fast enough to swap to java/walk with no mistakes. But when she has mb+ww on me, I literally can't do shit.
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Quote (sevlo @ Dec 12 2010 06:04pm)
You dont use those skills vs bow anyway?


i was refering to the fact that if a hybrid wanted, they could switch over to max block without a problem. they would lose 2 synergies. i guess the word skills in my other post gave you the wrong impression.
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Quote (Soccergoal10 @ 12 Dec 2010 20:03)
and using a max mindblast build... you lose only 2 skills (talon, dclaw) so it isnt hard to switch over to a max block build.


dont hybrids use shadow gcs usually? dont think you have room for trap and shadow gcs and all the other stuff you might need^^ but yea well if you use max mb build and trap sks then you are basicly a trapper with a bit different items and can use maxblock just fine if needed.. but I'd call it trapper at that point
and you dont lose talon^^

Quote (Spankwire @ 12 Dec 2010 20:06)
Maxblock or not, I rape most trappers even though I play amazon for 3 days (not on hell difficulty though, no bb/shit eq/shit res so I am 1-shot for most ele chars). I tank them ez assuming I ever get hit, which I don't. But vs ww I can't do shit. I have random eq, so can take 50% hp of the hyb at most till she jumps me. I am even fast enough to swap to java/walk with no mistakes. But when she has mb+ww on me, I literally can't do shit.


where do you play? im assuming eu as you talk about bb, but is that ladder or what?

the thing is that c/c might die at start before they even really get an opportunity to whirl, and if they survive you can still win with well-timed wsging (being on shield when they ww and furying them or maybe jab at times too)
but yea well hybrids might do better if you survive the start without losing too much hp, but it can be hard, and w/s trappers do just fine

This post was edited by tudey on Dec 12 2010 12:09pm
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dont hybrids use shadow gcs usually? dont think you have room for trap and shadow gcs and all the other stuff you might need^^ but yea well if you use max mb build and trap sks then you are basicly a trapper with a bit different items and can use maxblock just fine if needed.. but I'd call it trapper at that point
and you dont lose talon^^


well i used a mix inventory on my realm hybrid. i was making a max block setup but ran out of funds to finish it up. i would call my build a hybrid because of the way I played it. i did not use ww for defensive **in a jam? just whirl** type of dueling.
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Dec 12 2010 12:10pm
Quote (Soccergoal10 @ 12 Dec 2010 20:09)
well i used a mix inventory on my realm hybrid. i was making a max block setup but ran out of funds to finish it up. i would call my build a hybrid because of the way I played it. i did not use ww for defensive **in a jam? just whirl** type of dueling.


but i mean when you are using the maxblock setup its basicly identical to a trapper
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Quote (tudey @ Dec 12 2010 07:06pm)
where do you play? im assuming eu as you talk about bb, but is that ladder or what?

the thing is that c/c might die at start before they even really get an opportunity to whirl, and if they survive you can still win with well-timed wsging (being on shield when they ww and furying them or maybe jab at times too)
but yea well hybrids might do better if you survive the start without losing too much hp, but it can be hard, and w/s trappers do just fine


Yeah I play eu ladder, and was referring to bugbelt.

For example, when I saw Jeppe play, the hyb was dead/near dead before she even had the chance to do anything. I am aware that I am not nearly as accurate as him, but still I tested and I just COULDN'T kill the fucking hyb even when I told her to come from one same direction. My dmg sucked that bad :( Also casting stuff like HoW and Oak from wisp isn't even allowed on ladder :cry:
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Dec 12 2010 12:16pm
Quote (Spankwire @ 12 Dec 2010 20:15)
Yeah I play eu ladder, and was referring to bugbelt.

For example, when I saw Jeppe play, the hyb was dead/near dead before she even had the chance to do anything. I am aware that I am not nearly as accurate as him, but still I tested and I just COULDN'T kill the fucking hyb even when I told her to come from one same direction. My dmg sucked that bad :( Also casting stuff like HoW and Oak from wisp isn't even allowed on ladder :cry:


Play nonladder then^^
So stupid rules in ladder imo
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Dec 12 2010 12:17pm
Quote (tudey @ Dec 12 2010 06:10pm)
but i mean when you are using the maxblock setup its basicly identical to a trapper


true. but if needed or wanted, whirl is possible with a little switch up which in my opinion gives my build more versatility. the only thing I am missing on my hybrid would be about 10 rep =(
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