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Quote (Vessy123 @ 24 Nov 2021 19:55)
Haha so I also tried a high roll infinity on A2 merc, and the 95% chance to hit is pretty sweet with no need to demon limb. It performs similarly to EBOTD/arioc but you don't have to prebuff. Def wouldn't recommend burning 2 bers just for a GF barb but if you have an infinity already you can just use that. Even though the sheet dps is 33k vs 44k (ebotd/arioc) it performs well still because I assume not missing means less heals and 44k setup probably overkills very often (ie do 30k damage to a mob with 13k hp).

Also zoom zooms from the FRW.


Yeah, it works as though you had a high level Battle Cry applied automatically.
Infinity Great Poleaxe is phenomenal, even if rather slow to attack (all Infinities attack a bit slow), but for many people eBOTD and Fort are already out of reach :rofl:

It can't hurt to add it to the erratas, in case someone's insane enough to do this to themselves.
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Nov 25 2021 04:42am
Quote (Exokek @ Nov 25 2021 02:16am)
Yeah, it works as though you had a high level Battle Cry applied automatically.
Infinity Great Poleaxe is phenomenal, even if rather slow to attack (all Infinities attack a bit slow), but for many people eBOTD and Fort are already out of reach :rofl:

It can't hurt to add it to the erratas, in case someone's insane enough to do this to themselves.


I mean there's prob some players who have an infinity and are curious about gf barb but don't wana invest a ebotd lol. I'm using a thresher and with the andy + 15 ias so it hits the same speed as warpike with andy.
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Nov 25 2021 04:56am
Quote (Vessy123 @ 24 Nov 2021 19:55)
Haha so I also tried a high roll infinity on A2 merc, and the 95% chance to hit is pretty sweet with no need to demon limb. It performs similarly to EBOTD/arioc but you don't have to prebuff. Def wouldn't recommend burning 2 bers just for a GF barb but if you have an infinity already you can just use that. Even though the sheet dps is 33k vs 44k (ebotd/arioc) it performs well still because I assume not missing means less heals and 44k setup probably overkills very often (ie do 30k damage to a mob with 13k hp).

Also zoom zooms from the FRW.


Yeah; I wonder if once you reach the point where you're spending 2 Bers on the setup you may not wanna try and squeeze out that GF/MF :rofl:

The most comfortable setups for Infinity are:
- Infinity Great Poleaxe + Andariel's Visage (Ral) + eFort
- Infinity Great Poleaxe + Andariel's Visage (Cham) + CoH
- Infinity Thresher/Giant Thresher + Crown of Thieves (15IAS Jewel) + eFort/CoH
- Infinity Thresher/Giant Thresher + Tal Rasha's (Um) + eWealth

Or, god forbid:
- Infinity Thresher/Giant Thresher + Crown of Thieves (15IAS/20+ Lightning Res Jewel) + Wealth.

The 15IAS/Lightning Resist keeps the Merc safe against Lightning Enchanted (outside of Conviction) and the setup technically squeezes an extra effective 264%~ goldfind and 85%~ Magic Find (400GF/130MF baseline * 0.66 since it doesn't apply to Find Item)

The spreadsheet DPS should be low, but that never matters. Infinity is the coolest alternative to Demon Limb. A very, very expensive alternative :blink:

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Bro you ok?
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Quote (Exokek @ 25 Nov 2021 12:49)
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lol, I want his dealer's number

or wait, maybe it's your strategy that is just so damn good and makes ppl go nuts xD
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I finally changed mine strategy, started testing yours with just arioc's (and gavel and demon limb ofc), treachery and cot and the results were already satisfying! Now I got myself coh and eth andy 10ll, so I can't wait for testing :thumbsup:

BUT, I do have something interesting matter to discuss:

what do you think of socketing andy with cham instead of 15/2x fr?

I know, I am missing a breakpoint and risk my merc to be more vulnerable to fire (especially with conviction), but I still want to hear some opinions.

It might be painful especially in my case, because I have my arioc's socketed with 15 ias / 27 dmg to demons. With 15 ias in andy it's 24k vs Ismail with stone skin (including amplify on him). If I remove additional ias from andy, it drops to 5 hps and 21.5k dmg. If I remove ias from arioc's it stays at the same 5 hps, so normally in this cases it makes sense to socket arioc's with something else (amn, maybe Lo), but since mine has additional dmg to demons, it would actually drop another 600dmg. Then if I add Lo, it almost comes back to 24k dmg, but life leech will be still slightly slower. Adding Ohm, makes it slightly bigger, yet still slightly lower than initially. It's unnecessary spend, unless it's worth to socket andy with cham. With 40/15 it's 1.7k dps more than initially (including additional ias in andy without which we miss a bp anyway), but it's also too expensive and not necessary.

But are those changes all worth of adding cham? :blink:

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lol, I want his dealer's number

or wait, maybe it's your strategy that is just so damn good and makes ppl go nuts xD
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I finally changed mine strategy, started testing yours with just arioc's (and gavel and demon limb ofc), treachery and cot and the results were already satisfying! Now I got myself coh and eth andy 10ll, so I can't wait for testing :thumbsup:

BUT, I do have something interesting matter to discuss:

what do you think of socketing andy with cham instead of 15/2x fr?

I know, I am missing a breakpoint and risk my merc to be more vulnerable to fire (especially with conviction), but I still want to hear some opinions.

It might be painful especially in my case, because I have my arioc's socketed with 15 ias / 27 dmg to demons. With 15 ias in andy it's 24k vs Ismail with stone skin (including amplify on him). If I remove additional ias from andy, it drops to 5 hps and 21.5k dmg. If I remove ias from arioc's it stays at the same 5 hps, so normally in this cases it makes sense to socket arioc's with something else (amn, maybe Lo), but since mine has additional dmg to demons, it would actually drop another 600dmg. Then if I add Lo, it almost comes back to 24k dmg, but life leech will be still slightly slower. Adding Ohm, makes it slightly bigger, yet still slightly lower than initially. It's unnecessary spend, unless it's worth to socket andy with cham. With 40/15 it's 1.7k dps more than initially (including additional ias in andy without which we miss a bp anyway), but it's also too expensive and not necessary.

But are those changes all worth of adding cham? :blink:


The final build I give people who tell me they want to AFK this shit is:

eBOTD WP
CoH
Andy + Cham

33% life leech, 80ias breakpoint, cannot be frozen

:rofl:

But yes, Cham in Andy is great if you're on eBOTD, a bit less so on Arioc's.

If you put Cham Andy on Arioc's, put either a Pul or Amn in Arioc's.

This post was edited by Exokek on Nov 25 2021 06:07pm
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Quote (Exokek @ 26 Nov 2021 01:06)
The final build I give people who tell me they want to AFK this shit is:

eBOTD WP
CoH
Andy + Cham

33% life leech, 80ias breakpoint, cannot be frozen

:rofl:

But yes, Cham in Andy is great if you're on eBOTD, a bit less so on Arioc's.

If you put Cham Andy on Arioc's, put either a Pul or Amn in Arioc's.


haha, perfect :thumbsup:

all makes sense now!

damn, I just barely started happily using my arioc's <3 and I already think of a treachery, I mean, changing it for ebotd wp :rofl:
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Nov 25 2021 06:18pm
Quote (barteq88 @ 25 Nov 2021 19:15)
haha, perfect :thumbsup:

all makes sense now!

damn, I just barely started happily using my arioc's <3 and I already think of a treachery, I mean, changing it for ebotd wp :rofl:


I personally prefer Arioc's either way, since I like being more active & Arioc's has more "burst" due to Deadly Strike streaks. They're both phenomenal though.

I also use a 80gf 3os circlet with 120ed/90gf jewels, which means Arioc's only has CoH for life leech. Requires a bit more micromanagement.
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