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Quote (ThatWasShockin @ Thu, 3 Jul 2008, 00:04)
Pretty sure the only thing you're known for is talking without backing it up.


Well, so be it then.

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Yet you worship smash.....


But of course, he's contributed a huge load to the development of BvCs. Heck, same goes for Kaz and Kiba with Shapers, for example. And of course there're people who're simply damn good players, like Karol and Ben.

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ok thx smash 5-0 would have happened anyways certainly smile.gif
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Kinda hard to shut up forever as I don't plan on living that long.

You know, there was a time when I played the game, wanting to be the best. But in the end, that wouldn't be any fun. I'll rather remain known in the above-average level, then I'll at least have fun having some hard duels.


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i'm going to need a simplified version in bullet format. after this situation is rectified i will return to this thread and give my full assessment of this guide.


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Why should I? I don't see any reason to waste my time listening to some stuckup guy who thinks scores mean much. However, if you try again with a little more manners and less business I might consider.


i actually agree with you when you say that score doesnt mean much and it's what i always said. it would be enough if we did 10 duels and i just post all that i record regardless of score if you dont want to duel ft5

i will not be defensive if that makes any difference for you .. just thought because you might have a wrong impression of how this matchup would look like.
anyway im pretty chilled about it since im rather confident that i wont look too bad no matter what as long as its gm so feel free to post your conditions for the duels or just leave it.
however it would be kinda hilarious when we take a look at the following quotes, taken from dii.net 1:1


it was about my anti-barb switch on my old ww/ls hybrid, which was a 102/86 maxblock max dr BoS setup with widow on switch, 100% similar to my trapper gear apart from the widow thing and apart from the different skilling.
you said:

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If I only had the stashspace for an EBotdZ and a Stormshield, I could take the challenge. Not that I even have an EBotdZ. Well, I could always get rid of my Hsarus or Fortitude and have that extra 6 spots for a Stormshield.

you dont even need block now, so it should be easier for you. regarding the fact that the only difference between my current build and my old hybrid is that the trapper has lvl20 base mindblast and no venom at all

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Jokebarbs with shield will just get locked as usual then ridiculed for dealing half damage.


Well of course, in this case, a block setup is pointless since the setup is based around traps.

But basically, all I see is a trapper with low trap damage.

The stats are not that impressive either. Other than the Widowing, the kicks and the inv-CTA, looks like a normal Trapper.

And thus, you have to be quite a good player to have a good chance of beating a barb. Even then, I cannot see this build beating a pro barb. The kicks are rather risky since getting out of stunlock isn't that huge of a deal due to Whirlwind. And getting a stunlock in the first place is rather hard so long as the barb doesn't stand still for ages. Actually, there is no reason for the barb to stand still at all, besides the few frames after tele animation. Other than that, you will always be either Leaping or Whirling, both which are rather uninterruptable.



subtract the venom fueled kicks and widowmaker and add a lvl20 base mindblast and you got my current build, so there shouldnt be much to worry about



PS: MAX I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS D2JSP GG GUIDE IS PWN THX :props:

This post was edited by Holocauster_Tycoon on Jul 3 2008 03:36pm
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