Quote (Soka_Gakkai @ Oct 21 2010 01:26pm)
if you have taken time to read the whole guide, you would already found some answers, but i can understand that it is not easy, 141 pages of discussion (for me)
here it:
I have read the guide, still dont expect me to read 350 + pages of discussions and sometimes nonsense please.
Thanks alot for your help though, highly appreciated. I am just loving assassins which are able to whirl as most people writing here,
so don´t eat me please when i am not that much into it some Maths/Basics and ask for opinions

Quote (Tails chao @ Oct 21 2010 02:51pm)
I rate OW a lot higher than I used to, I 100% recommend any open sockets you have in a claw to be full of Ums. I would rate it: Cruel's>Um>Lo in priority order on a claw, that's ignoring +ls/ias/base claw type etc, just the whirl damage boosts.
OW pierces ES, bone armour, it makes it harder for your opponent to rep and it's passive damage. Most importantly, it's significant passive damage.
In any case that claw is too slow lol.
I agree totally.
I would resock the posted claw with Um anyway btw.
I am just asking, if it would be an idea to use the claw against special opponents.
My calculations said the claw isnt too slow. I am using Chaos Runics Offhand, and combined with Bugbelt ( available on europe, giving 10ias ) i achieve fastest ww bp and 10th frame trap laying. (with highlords even 9th = fastest)
So my question is:
Can it beat 3ls 2mb 2wb Fury ( higher ow ofc + higher Ls dmg , block) , or
2 assa 40 ias 2ls fools ferals " Um´d " with some max dmg / fire dmg ( final max dmg up to 115) - ( highest Ls dmg, more ar, more block )
I am asking for opinions,
take note i am playing a hybsin similar to the topic creator. and no ghost