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Oct 14 2010 12:44pm
Quote (Piedpiper18 @ 14 Oct 2010 21:37)
Okay I found the fools I was looking for. Now here's a question about ar:

How is ar for ww calculated? As it is now, my gchaos is in my glove side. So when I choose ww, my ar is just at 4k. Is this right?
I expected the ar for both claws to increase actually. How does it work?

I really hope this doesn't mean I'll just be hitting a lot with only my fools and not the gclaw.

E: Hmm I just WSM bugged and it boosted the ar. Does this mean that I won't get the fools ar bonus if I don't WSM bug?


wsm bug makes fools primary
you get it either way but wsm bug just makes it visible on screen
and it should be just for fools claw not for chaos

but there was a test that had a bit suprising results. looked like fools worked only in primary and that ar would be split between both of claws. but its hard to say if its like that, think there was some other test with different results. but iirc most people think that it applies to only fools claw and that's how it should work too
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Oct 14 2010 12:47pm
Quote (Piedpiper18 @ Oct 14 2010 10:37am)
Okay I found the fools I was looking for. Now here's a question about ar:

How is ar for ww calculated? As it is now, my gchaos is in my glove side. So when I choose ww, my ar is just at 4k. Is this right?
I expected the ar for both claws to increase actually. How does it work?

I really hope this doesn't mean I'll just be hitting a lot with only my fools and not the gclaw.

E: Hmm I just WSM bugged and it boosted the ar. Does this mean that I won't get the fools ar bonus if I don't WSM bug?


On screen AR is taken from whatever your primary claw is. Since the default primary is glove side and your gchaos is on gloves, that's the AR you saw. When WSM bugging, what you're doing is setting your bootside to primary. Once you WSM bug and set your fools claw as primary, you'll see that claw's AR.

As far as how AR is calculated between claws, it's actually sketchy. The game code says that each claw is calculated separately so putting fools on offhand is essentially the same. However, there have been tests where it showed that might not be the case. For now, keep fools claw as primary always. It gives the most consistent hit results.


Quote (tudey @ Oct 14 2010 10:44am)
wsm bug makes fools primary
you get it either way but wsm bug just makes it visible on screen
and it should be just for fools claw not for chaos

but there was a test that had a bit suprising results. looked like fools worked only in primary and that ar would be split between both of claws. but its hard to say if its like that, think there was some other test with different results. but iirc most people think that it applies to only fools claw and that's how it should work too


I see I need to type faster <_<

This post was edited by Bryant on Oct 14 2010 12:48pm
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Quote (tudey @ Oct 14 2010 10:44pm)
wsm bug makes fools primary
you get it either way but wsm bug just makes it visible on screen
and it should be just for fools claw not for chaos

but there was a test that had a bit suprising results. looked like fools worked only in primary and that ar would be split between both of claws. but its hard to say if its like that, think there was some other test with different results. but iirc most people think that it applies to only fools claw and that's how it should work too


What's the point of getting a fools if you're barely going to hit with the gclaw?
I was told to get a good fools instead of a visionary if I had to choose. If this is true, shouldn't visionary be of a higher priority then? Seeing that it adds to ar of both weapons...
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What's the point of getting a fools if you're barely going to hit with the gclaw?
I was told to get a good fools instead of a visionary if I had to choose. If this is true, shouldn't visionary be of a higher priority then? Seeing that it adds to ar of both weapons...


yea visionary adds to both
the only problem is that it adds much less ar than fools does
Quote (Bryant @ 14 Oct 2010 21:47)
On screen AR is taken from whatever your primary claw is. Since the default primary is glove side and your gchaos is on gloves, that's the AR you saw. When WSM bugging, what you're doing is setting your bootside to primary. Once you WSM bug and set your fools claw as primary, you'll see that claw's AR.

As far as how AR is calculated between claws, it's actually sketchy. The game code says that each claw is calculated separately so putting fools on offhand is essentially the same. However, there have been tests where it showed that might not be the case. For now, keep fools claw as primary always. It gives the most consistent hit results.




I see I need to type faster <_<

pwt^^

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Quote (Piedpiper18 @ Oct 14 2010 10:48am)
What's the point of getting a fools if you're barely going to hit with the gclaw?
I was told to get a good fools instead of a visionary if I had to choose. If this is true, shouldn't visionary be of a higher priority then? Seeing that it adds to ar of both weapons...


Hitting many times with only fools claw is better than barely hitting with both claws.
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Oct 14 2010 12:51pm
Quote (tudey @ Oct 14 2010 10:49am)
yea visionary adds to both
the only problem is that it adds much less ar than fools does
pwt^^


AT LEAST I'M NOT NOOBEN IRL LIKE YOU.
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Hitting many times with only fools claw is better than barely hitting with both claws.


I GOT RIPPED OFF

AFK SLITTING
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Oct 14 2010 12:52pm
Quote (Bryant @ 14 Oct 2010 21:51)
AT LEAST I'M NOT NOOBEN IRL LIKE YOU.


now you have prooved your a kid

i never said anywhere that im good xD
never claimed im the best

and yes i accept that.
while doing that i bang the best pussys

you go play necro xD
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Oct 14 2010 12:53pm
Quote (tudey @ Oct 14 2010 10:52am)
now you have prooved your a kid

i never said anywhere that im good xD
never claimed im the best

and yes i accept that.
while doing that i bang the best pussys

you go  play necro xD


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Oct 14 2010 12:54pm
Fools is most likely an individual claw add, it's the most rational explanation. Though the LCS seems to half the Fools claw bonus for WW and add it to both claws for some reason.
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