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Fade procing is not an issue as it is merely a bonus that can't be matched by Fort ever.


Lol wtf are you trying to say?
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@ godest:Treacheri'es ONLY redeeming quality is the lvl 15 fade. Nothing more,nothing less. The venom is weak, and there are MUCH better ias armors, have you never heard of a 160/60 100 lifer AP?More defence, more life,more ias then treachery.Sure its more expensive,but other then that ......dont ever say what ias is what treachery is all about.

but 5%ctc is VERY dangerous, especially in hardcore where souls can zap your merc w/low light res/then kill you since they have mana burn
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@ godest:Treacheri'es ONLY redeeming quality is the lvl 15 fade. Nothing more,nothing less. The venom is weak, and there are MUCH better ias armors, have you never heard of a 160/60 100 lifer AP?More defence, more life,more ias then treachery.Sure its more expensive,but other then that ......dont ever say what ias is what treachery is all about.

but 5%ctc is VERY dangerous, especially in hardcore where souls can zap your merc w/low light res/then kill you since they have mana burn


I agree. I normally use Treachery in long games, but if you're just Eldritch, Shenk, and Pindle or some sort of short runs, Fade probably won't proc.

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@ godest:Treacheri'es ONLY redeeming quality is the lvl 15 fade. Nothing more,nothing less. The venom is weak, and there are MUCH better ias armors, have you never heard of a 160/60 100 lifer AP?More defence, more life,more ias then treachery.Sure its more expensive,but other then that ......dont ever say what ias is what treachery is all about.

but 5%ctc is VERY dangerous, especially in hardcore where souls can zap your merc w/low light res/then kill you since they have mana burn


You use 7 x buffas. You live in the south. Anything you say is invalid.

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Lol wtf are you trying to say?


That this page merely deals with the 45% IAS compared to 300% ED, nothing else, hence why even without the proc from Fade, Treachery > Fort. Then add the Fade proc, and Treachery is that much better than Fort as well.
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You use 7 x buffas.  You live in the south.  Anything you say is invalid.



That this page merely deals with the 45% IAS compared to 300% ED, nothing else, hence why even without the proc from Fade, Treachery > Fort.  Then add the Fade proc, and Treachery is that much better than Fort as well.


Without the fade proc, treachery is NOT better than Fort, period (don't tell me a bit more damage is preferable to resists, dr, and defense) With the proc, it is definitely better once it procs.
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Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 22 2011 11:35am)
Without the fade proc, treachery is NOT better than Fort, period (don't tell me a bit more damage is preferable to resists, dr, and defense) With the proc, it is definitely better once it procs.


Again, what does this have to do with the fact that the theorycrafting that went on with Synonym's original post merely deals with 45% IAS compared to 300% ED.
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Quote (Godest @ Nov 22 2011 02:40pm)
Again, what does this have to do with the fact that the theorycrafting that went on with Synonym's original post merely deals with 45% IAS compared to 300% ED.


The fact that I claimed that the main problem with Treachery was the difficulty to proc Fade, and you somehow tried to defend that and then said you weren't trying to defend that cause it's off-topic or something.

I don't get it either.
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