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Quote (sylvannos @ Sat, Aug 8 2009, 11:16pm)
Ugh...

Often times I find a lower ar set-up is doing better because my damage is higher / i have more deadly strike / - target def / etc.

It's more like you've sacrificed ar so that your other stats are better, thus making it seem like you "hit more," when really you're hitting harder or you've done something that makes it easier to hit.


makes sense, with phoenix my ar is only 16k lol, but when it hits.. kaboom
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Aug 8 2009 10:32am
Quote (vknez @ Sat, Aug 8 2009, 05:53am)
its all about the chances, but with higher ar you have better chance


Clueless ftw

Quote (sylvannos @ Sat, Aug 8 2009, 06:16am)
Ugh...

Often times I find a lower ar set-up is doing better because my damage is higher / i have more deadly strike / - target def / etc.

It's more like you've sacrificed ar so that your other stats are better, thus making it seem like you "hit more," when really you're hitting harder or you've done something that makes it easier to hit.


Not even just higher damage output but more hits. Sure higher ar = higher hit % but it's still a % which is based on luck. Saying "rofl" to me when I say something about melee shows that he's completely clueless about melee and highly doubt he even has one. But yes for the most part lower ar setups usually have high damage with high ds so usually just it hits less for more damage. It's also not just about ar though. If I was using a visionary setup with 25k ar and was dueling someone who had valor setup on I would switch to shako setup which has 3k less ar and I would do much better than if I hadn't switched.

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Quote (alphasquare @ Sat, Aug 8 2009, 06:31pm)


Yeah I know about that discussion. Higher ar setups are still superior to lower ar setups as they are a lot more consistent though.
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Aug 8 2009 08:25pm
i made the one with shaft, really nice guide


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Quote (dark-soul @ Sat, Aug 8 2009, 09:32am)

Not even just higher damage output but more hits. Sure higher ar = higher hit % but it's still a % which is based on luck. Saying "rofl" to me when I say something about melee shows that he's completely clueless about melee and highly doubt he even has one. But yes for the most part lower ar setups usually have high damage with high ds so usually just it hits less for more damage. It's also not just about ar though. If I was using a visionary setup with 25k ar and was dueling someone who had valor setup on I would switch to shako setup which has 3k less ar and I would do much better than if I hadn't switched.


I don't want to start a theorycrafting discussion, but the way ar works is tricky.

If you switch from a visionary to a shako you get more life, +2 all attributes, +2 skills, etc. etc. (I'm assuming you were using a non-circlet visionary?)

As the thread alphasquare posted says, the difference between 17k and 23k is about 5%, which isn't much, and why you stand correct when you say that sometimes lower-ar set-ups do better and may seem to "hit more," because that 5% is barely noticeable when zealots kill each other in only a few volleys.
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Aug 9 2009 03:56am
Is it worth it to go for a Enigma setup to fight casters? Like a ZvA.
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Aug 9 2009 04:48am
its a great idea!

you got -40 allres...
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Quote (channelbot @ Sun, Aug 9 2009, 03:48am)
its a great idea!

you got -40 allres...


lol!

Quote (xdarkenx @ Sun, Aug 9 2009, 02:56am)
Is it worth it to go for a Enigma setup to fight casters? Like a ZvA.


This is the wrong guide for ZvA
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