d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Diablo II > Diablo 2 Discussion > Strategy & Guides > Bui's Vindicator/templar Paladin Guide > East Nonladder V/t Paladin
Prev13233343536178Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 41,350
Joined: Apr 16 2008
Gold: 0.00
Jul 16 2009 07:24pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 18:01)
smite is only 5 points away from being maxed with this setup...



1) i am aware that the gloves in the guide are not real.
2) i do not own them nor does anyone on real realms. the closest gloves to those that actually do exist are however owned by me though.
3) the whole purpose of posting the other gloves was to show everyone what the "best" possibility was so they know what to look for...
4) your build isnt bad, but you would do poor in vt vs vt with that kinda setup cuz no pb etc...
5) heres my real gloves

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/AznMastaBui/Diablo/Screenshot275.jpg


Are 20 IAS gloves even necessary with a PB + Fanat to reach the BP?
Member
Posts: 29,614
Joined: Sep 23 2008
Gold: 0.00
Jul 16 2009 07:31pm
Quote (young2093 @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 09:24pm)
Are 20 IAS gloves even necessary with a PB + Fanat to reach the BP?


when slowed? holy freeze? imo it's handy to use 20 ias gloves, especially in pubs where BMing is common..
Member
Posts: 4,055
Joined: Mar 17 2009
Gold: 21.84
Jul 16 2009 07:35pm
i like it dude :)
Member
Posts: 41,350
Joined: Apr 16 2008
Gold: 0.00
Jul 16 2009 07:39pm
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 19:31)
when slowed? holy freeze? imo it's handy to use 20 ias gloves, especially in pubs where BMing is common..


IDK, I just see Highlords as a viable option for IAS/LR/+1 All/Charge Damage.
Member
Posts: 29,614
Joined: Sep 23 2008
Gold: 0.00
Jul 16 2009 07:42pm
Quote (young2093 @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 09:39pm)
IDK, I just see Highlords as a viable option for IAS/LR/+1 All/Charge Damage.


if he is using slippers at the moment, switching to highlords would bring down his block by quite a bit.. also imo slips is a far more versatile ammy, rather switch gloves than switch slips to highlords..
Member
Posts: 49,932
Joined: Apr 30 2004
Gold: 39,662.00
Jul 16 2009 07:49pm
Quote (young2093 @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 09:39pm)
IDK, I just see Highlords as a viable option for IAS/LR/+1 All/Charge Damage.


highlords is a really bad choice cuz less skills, less damage, less life, less res, less stats, etc....

highlords for a barb or a sin yes. not for a smiter

Quote (Aube @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 08:51pm)
Dmg comparison
at lvl 96

12smite 20 hs(yourbuild) vs 20 smite 20 hs(Vt build) using your gear(15+sk and 11pc)


(Shield Base + Holy Shield bonus + Grief bonus) * (1 +[ Smite %ED bonus + STR %ED bonus + Fanaticism %ED bonus + off-weapon %ED bonus/100]) = Total damage

12/20
(46 + 164 + 400) * (1 +[ 570 + 196 + 628]/100) = 610*14.94=9113.4

20/20
(46 + 164 + 400) * (1 +[690 + 196 + 628]/100) = 610*16.14=9845.4

9845.4*.17=1673.718*.5=839.859
9113.4*.17=1549.278*.5=774.639

839.9-774.6=~ 65.3 dmg per smite


hum.... interesting. i guess that 65 damage can add up. but do u really think its noticable outside of smite v smite? i mean it think vs other chars. if u catch em with smite, they're fucked retardless lol

now can u compare the foh damage too? i wanna see the trade off

also 1 more thing. while the damage may be a bit, most people dont die "exactly" at like 200 life less... normally its gonna take 1 more smite anyways to finish them. and if it really is that close for a vt. the powerful foh is actually a safer way to play it dont u agree>

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 16 2009 08:00pm
Member
Posts: 41,350
Joined: Apr 16 2008
Gold: 0.00
Jul 16 2009 08:00pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 19:49)
highlords is a really bad choice cuz less skills, less damage, less life, less res, less stats, etc....

highlords for a barb or a sin yes. not for a smiter


Remember that using highlords opens up the glove slot.
Member
Posts: 49,932
Joined: Apr 30 2004
Gold: 39,662.00
Jul 16 2009 08:01pm
Quote (young2093 @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 10:00pm)
Remember that using highlords opens up the glove slot.


yea but theres no better glove than the one i proposed (dracs/clegs = bm on east)

life/dex/res/10cb (that helps alot for smiters) str also adds ED for smite as well if you can find a pair of gloves with str too

i mean u can replace them w/ something like trangs, but then again like i said, i already have a setup with 75%fcr it not needed.

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 16 2009 08:03pm
Member
Posts: 41,350
Joined: Apr 16 2008
Gold: 0.00
Jul 16 2009 08:04pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, 16 Jul 2009, 20:01)
yea but theres no better glove than the one i proposed (dracs/clegs = bm on east)

life/dex/res/10cb (that helps alot for smiters) str also adds ED for smite as well if you can find a pair of gloves with str too

i mean u can replace them w/ something like trangs, but then again like i said, i already have a setup with 75%fcr it not needed.


Bloodfists seem pretty nifty considering you're not using a spirit.
Member
Posts: 49,932
Joined: Apr 30 2004
Gold: 39,662.00
Jul 16 2009 08:09pm
Quote (young2093 @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 10:04pm)
Bloodfists seem pretty nifty considering you're not using a spirit.


acually i've tried ur suggestion before. the damage loss is considerable - when u lose that 1+ skill, u also lose 1smite/1holysheild/1fant

u also lose shitload of res/32dex/up to 35 str/10cb too

light res dont count because highlords = 35 but gloves can get 30 and ammy = 20 = 50 total
life from slips = ~50 +20 form gloves = 70, blood fists = 40?

so in the end, u gain 35%ds (which only helps charge) and 30%fhr but lose EVERYTHING else.

if u cant get slips, get a 2pally/20fcr/str or dex/life/res all ammy or maras

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 16 2009 08:12pm
Go Back To Strategy & Guides Topic List
Prev13233343536178Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll