Ofc they can. They simple have 100% immunity. Conviction removes all elemental immunities, short of Uber Trist mephi / baal / diablo.

i mf with a light sorc on a regular occasion... my merc's conviction doesn't touch thier immunities... and why wouldn't you just use all pallies + 1 sorc + barb? Holy shock and holy freeze ftw

This post was edited by Trapslick on Dec 6 2009 07:22am

1-2 phys dmg then

Your merc's conv is 12. I'm talking about level 21 conv. -150%. It's enough.

e: Your setup would just not work, based on former experience.

This post was edited by Synonym on Dec 6 2009 07:25am

ok, was just throwing something out there..

i find it strange that shout + battle orders + battle cry are the only ones aloud... it seems like the rest (out side of the singer skill) is a debuff... or are they just too powerful for an ironman?

Tell me what you think is wrongfully not allowed and I'll tell you why.

honestly, i would think that battle cry should be aloud... i mean its only -44% damage at lvl 21

one more question... from your experiance, wouldn't an assassin or barb with a cleansing arura make the best tank considering they are the only ones that stand a chance against poison later in the game? a zon would be slaughtered vs anything hard to kill that emits any poison damage... you'd get only 80% poison reduction which wouldn't do much vs something like meph who just lets out gas meaning you'd be poisoned the entire time anyway

Battle cry stuns - hence OP skill - hence not allowed. The only offensive maneuver allowed is the attack skill, and of course buffs/debuffs.

With salvation and cleansing both operating, all characters in hell would have between 2-5k HP at levels 7x-8x, with max resistances.

If you are referring to Uber Meph - it is truly impossible. The entire uber trist is impossible for Melee-Ironman. What the germans did was a much more simplified, much less challenging Ironman.