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Aug 30 2010 03:50pm
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Your a genius, you actually think decrep will go off every hit or be active for more then 50% of the time.  same with deadly strike.  even with both going off the damage is not significantly higher then normal botd damage and over time botd will do much more damage and do trav quicker.


I just showed you the calculations that decrepify goes off every second and stays, hence it is active 100% of the time. And deadly strike triggers 1.5 times every second, or rather 3 times every 2 seconds to be more practical. And with both going off, sorry to break your bubble, but reaper's does a lot more damage than botd and will do a full game of trav quicker than ebotd..

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I just showed you the calculations that decrepify goes off every second and stays, hence it is active 100% of the time. And deadly strike triggers 1.5 times every second, or rather 3 times every 2 seconds to be more practical. And with both going off, sorry to break your bubble, but reaper's does a lot more damage than botd and will do a full game of trav quicker than ebotd..


You didnt do any calculation's, your not smart enough to do math.

Ebotd will do more damage over time in trav's and do it quicker also it will not pop any bodies which is why people choose it over reaper's for gf barbs!

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Quote (Andrewchos @ Aug 30 2010 09:48pm)
Your a genius, you actually think decrep will go off every hit or be active for more then 50% of the time.  same with deadly strike.  even with both going off the damage is not significantly higher then normal botd damage and over time botd will do much more damage and do trav quicker.


just to say something..

if 33% chanse to caste decr at 4.5 hits pr sec..it will prob get 1 times.. every sec..it last 4 sec.. so you have 18 hits before it will stop. in 18 hits.. at 33% every hit..
mabe im wrong here..but thats nothing new.. B)
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Quote (MULTIQ @ Aug 30 2010 04:53pm)
just to say something..

if 33% chanse to caste decr at 4.5 hits pr sec..it will prob get 1 times.. every sec..it last 4 sec.. so you have 18 hits before it will stop. in 18 hits.. at 33% every hit..
mabe im wrong here..but thats nothing new.. B)


I've seen it in action its never on for more then 50% of the time at best.
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Aug 30 2010 03:55pm
Quote (Andrewchos @ Aug 30 2010 05:51pm)
You didnt do any calculation's your not smart enough to do math.


Here are the calculations with with I tried knocking sense into you, in case you missed them, feel free to go through them again.. As for my math ability... you have no idea ^_^

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most of the time, they will be active.. has a 33% chance of casting decrep and i'm sure 1 decrep stays for at least as long as 3 hits from the merc, which means continuous decrepify..

about DS, 33% from ereapers and 15% from guil is close to 50%, which is one DS in two hits, odds I'd definitely take..


Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Aug 30 2010 05:25pm)
As Synonym posted, with 33% of 4.5 strikes per second, DS would trigger more than once every second (1.5 times to be precise), with decrepify on.. which makes the damage higher than BotD..

if you run full games, reaper's is definitely better than ebotd


Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Aug 30 2010 05:35pm)
Apparently repeating what Synonym said didn't manage to convince you, so I'm not sure why there was a problem with that..

Actually, it is 4.5 attacks per second (which translates to 5.5 fpa)..

And 1/3 chance of procing means that it procs once in 3 hits, not once in 6 hits.. and if you do more than 3 hits per second (which you do, seeing as you do 4.5 hits per second and 4.5 > 3), you proc DS every second, which was what I meant..

P.S: Have fun flaming..


Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Aug 30 2010 05:39pm)
Level 1 decrepify only lasts for 4 seconds, agreed.

The merc attacks 4.5 times per second, and having a 33% chance of casting decrepify, which is once every 3 attacks, it can be safe to assume that decrepify casts every 1 second.

It lasts 4 seconds and casts every 1 second, pretty much meaning that the decrepify is never off..

And it has nothing to do with luck.. it's plain logic..

Losing those 5-6 bodies would be worth it since it allows you to do 2 extra runs in the same time which will definitely more than compensate for those 5-6 lost bodies..


P.S: I was smart enough to do the math, are you smart enough to see the facts when they stare at you? :)


Quote (Andrewchos @ Aug 30 2010 05:54pm)
I've seen it in action its never on for more then 50% of the time at best.


Also, just because you haven't seen something in action doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.. I have seen neither the second world war nor the great depression, but I can't run around saying that they didn't happen.. To prove something, what you need is logic, not your eyewitness..



This post was edited by ashwinthegrim on Aug 30 2010 03:56pm
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kid you fail, your to dumb to do anything but troll and no one care's what u have to say.

reaper will only be doing more damage then botd for a small % of the run the other larger amount of time botd will be doing greater damage and thus overall it will do more damage quicker and do the run faster without popping bodies.

so boring to listen to you all the guides pick botd and anyone with common sense picks it have fun thinking ur right im done wasting my time talkin to a nobody.

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kid you fail, your to dumb to do anything but troll and no one care's what u have to say.

reaper will only be doing more damage then botd for a small % of the run the other larger amount of time botd will be doing greater damage and thus overall it will do more damage quicker and do the run faster without popping bodies.

so boring to listen to you all the guides pick botd and anyone with common sense picks it have fun thinking ur right im done wasting my time talkin to a nobody.


sure no problem, you can keep your valuable botd..

As I said earlier, all guides picking something doesn't mean that they are optimal.. Those guides aren't the law, didn't you know? Or did you think that once something has been put into a guide it can never be wrong?

And if the truth is boring to you, I guess we can't help you.. Have fun with your build..

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sure no problem, you can keep your valuable botd..

As I said earlier, all guides picking something doesn't mean that they are optimal.. Those guides aren't the law, didn't you know? Or did you think that once something has been put into a guide it can never be wrong?

And if the truth is boring to you, I guess we can't help you.. Have fun with your build..


Thanks, me and all the other people who use it will enjoy it. Guess we're all just dumbasses huh ur so smart wish I knew all the shit u knew.
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Aug 30 2010 04:03pm
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Thanks, me and all the other people who use it will enjoy it.  Guess we're all just dumbasses huh ur so smart wish I knew all the shit u knew.


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Quote (Andrewchos @ Aug 30 2010 06:00pm)
Thanks, me and all the other people who use it will enjoy it.  Guess we're all just dumbasses huh ur so smart wish I knew all the shit u knew.


One day, the wish fairy will grant you your wishes :) And I see you've realized the truth finally.

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