I'm pretty used to 43 dr since I played bvcs a bit and 39+ became acceptable for me, but you're right, I'd lose vs a better geared 50 dr ghost (I do like that match as well, the only sin vs sin matches I don't like happen to be two sins with lightning sentry :/).

I just got 2 jewels in to make up for the res, 60 ed helps and I get a source of fire damage for extra stun, as well as extra dex.

and I guessed you used it for swapping out for sorb rings since that's the only actual benefit I could see that couldn't be made up for by a ghost using a circlet :p, well and the fhr/look I guess. :/

well its hard to find a circlet with that ias as well. u would have to waste a 2x ias jewel to get it. and valk also have a 1 free socket where you can put jah or a 20/15 for res and life

dont you think its a good compromise? ~2 skills (on a ghost) for all that bonuses?

and ofc the sex looks, i mean if ur gonna pwn u have to do it in style

I guess the ias does let you use heavier claws, but I think circ still does more because of 60 ed from jewels (it does add a few hundred so it's pretty noticable).

In the end I prefer a circ because I use scs, so I'm lacking +skills in the first place lol. I don't do it so much for the life etc, but the res is also cute.

though I guess it does help when you get slowed for trap laying but there's highlords for that anyway o_O

Having said that I did make a valk ghost once with 102 fcr just so I could use it with style, but it was really awkward lol. Damage was weak ofc :/

well see. the way i setup my build. i can use valk + highlords + gores and still be good. and i would still have a free ring slot for a sorb ring if i need to (say vs a trapper or something).

if u use a circlet, you are pretty much screwed when u have to duel a very defensive sorc or trapper. and yea. i guess 2x 40/15s would be ok, but then ur life would be bad and ur dr would be low. if u were in a situation and got jumped or vs something else. that extra ber in the helm could save ur ass.

I'd use a valk if I gm'd where I could use 1x sorb ring, don't get me wrong. I'm just used to using raven/fcr ring for jewelery.

and its 30 ed rares I use ;p, gives extra res, stats and such, as well as a source of fire damage. I dont really need the 15 ias I just wsm bug it. I wouldn't use jewels if I was just using them for ed anyway, but you're right I do get slightly lower life in comparison to you (only about 4 less dr though).

And I don't really think I'm screwed when I fight a defensive sorc with circ, but a defensive trapper is really hard without a wisp for sure.

the sorc thing is very hard to believe. i couldnt believe it myself either until i faced one. but basically if you fought a defensive sorc with 40life rep and a crap load of mana regen + mdr its very very hard. especially if they box you and know sin's timing + wsg.

but yea... see the thing with me is. while circlet is better overall (i admit it). when those 2-3 match up comes up and you need the valk, its better to have it than to not have it. basically ghost sins are good already so a little bit better wont make that much of a difference. what does is when u actually need that wisp or dwarf and you have it there. it can really save your ass.

much like the phyzer you dueled, only without hacked charm then eh?

I guess I'd have to play one myself but I can't really see how it'd happen, especially since sins probably create the most openings against a sorc compared to any other char. At the very least I couldn't see a light sorc being tough, though, since as soon as they cast lightning it gives you an opening anyway. :/

and couldn't you just stash a circ setup then? in a 1v1 when another tough opponent is giving you trouble.

o, you wont have trouble at first. thats not the problem the problem is in the end they wear you down.

basically, u can do w/e you want and weaken them, but as soon as they're low, they will run around the moor @ 105fcr and not do anything. if they dont stop, your fcr isnt fast enough to catch them (even with 102 u cant match a sorc's 105) so basically sooner or later, they will rep all their life back, and dish out damage to you quicker than you can to them. (es tanks alot, and u dont have a sorb ring or anything to null the damage)

ps. i killed all the phyzer wannabes. but in theory, even vs mark. i could get him about 1/4 life ez. but then he would just l8z and heal it all back up. sooner or later, i would mess up and run into fireballs. and in the end (it might take like 20 mins or so) i would run out of mana and lose.

at least with a sorb ring slot, it still gives you more of a chance.

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 26 2009 05:36pm

I know what your problem was with those sorcs, I just still can't see them losing that bad without a sorb ring. Surely the best thing to do would be to corner them, or setup traps where you think they'll go to get a good dclaw lock to break their mana pool and kill them, no? Or is there a better option? I don't really know since I haven't played a sorc like that that's any good.

see the thing is. im sure you are aware, it takes about 6 or so direct fireballs to kill you if you dont have any sorb on.

they can play in and out with fireballs until you make a mistake and get hit. if you capture them, they can wsg out and l8z until they rep up if they mess up. in the end u will take more damage and lose. however, the chances of finding a sorc player whos that well rounded and smart is basically zero.

however, i still like to be prepared just in case