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Jul 26 2010 09:24am
Quote (tudey @ 26 Jul 2010 16:19)
can be actually really hard to not get hit

basicly if you dont get swirlies on me I will usually hit you^^
and cant always rely on shadow to cast it for you and its not that easy to cast it on me yourself when im chasing you

yea if your hybrid is max mb 1 venom build with trap sks at least in stash then it can be made quite similar


no swirlies doesn't necessarily mean you'll hit them, otherwise vita necs/sorcs/druids etc would get destroyed by barbs ;/
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Jul 26 2010 09:48am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 26 2010 03:04pm)
thanks for an honest response. however... ANY sin that loses to a hdin should slit... u can beat a hdin with a pure ghost let alone a ww + trap sin

i acutally dont find barbs that difficult for sins and i am still lookin for a barb that can kill me ft5 vs my hybrid on d2pk (i will use all vendor gear only so no bs fake items if anyone wants to duel).

necs are practically impossible for hybrids if they are good. however, most necs are stupid and lack the timing ability so its not that bad. i'd say on a high scale pvp nec > sin but on mediocre, its pretty even (and how often do u find a really godly nec or a really godly sin dueler anyways who reads a guide right?)


Well and again i get why your seeing the advantage on sins when facing hammers still i have to disagree on that point but well arguring on that in theority wont get us any further .
I agree with what you said about necs obiviously a nec need to know what to do else he wont get out of mb/wof/ls/twirls for sure. Apprently your right you wont find alot over average duelers reading guides around here.
Same story with barb a medicore barb will obviously have a hard time alltho i think his hands shud hold the reins there.

Anyway im getting of the topic let me tell you again you done a nice job this guide is outstanding.

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Jul 26 2010 09:54am
Quote (Tails chao @ 26 Jul 2010 18:24)
no swirlies doesn't necessarily mean you'll hit them, otherwise vita necs/sorcs/druids etc would get destroyed by barbs ;/


it does for me against sins xD ( i dont hit them all the time of course but theres a good chance I connect a hit if I can chase them when not swirlied)
c/c sins I mean, w/s also has oak which is really annoying, harder to hit them. nec also has oak +golem so you dont connect whirl hits as easily
and i destroy necs/sorcs lol, druids im not so good against, too many summons xD!

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Jul 26 2010 10:20am
Quote (tudey @ Jul 26 2010 11:54am)
it does for me against sins xD ( i dont hit them all the time of course but theres a good chance I connect a hit if I can chase them when not swirlied)
c/c sins I mean, w/s also has oak which is really annoying, harder to hit them. nec also has oak +golem so you dont connect whirl hits as easily
and i destroy necs/sorcs lol, druids im not so good against, too many summons xD!


its harder if they stay in their traps and spam phammer at u 24/7. and unless u like never miss a ww, u'll get locked eventually thus forcing you to wsg out (possibly get hit by a ow'd ww) or ww out (they still keep lock on u)

but i dont see why a barb would lose to a good hybrid with ~9k trap and 3.8kish ww (and high ow) + claw block

as long as u arent getting hit 24/7 by trading ww's with the barb the sin should win
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Jul 26 2010 10:29am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 26 2010 04:20pm)
its harder if they stay in their traps and spam phammer at u 24/7. and unless u like never miss a ww, u'll get locked eventually thus forcing you to wsg out (possibly get hit by a ow'd ww) or ww out (they still keep lock on u)

but i dont see why a barb would lose to a good hybrid with ~9k trap and 3.8kish ww (and high ow) + claw block

as long as u arent getting hit 24/7 by trading ww's with the barb the sin should win


Because barb got twice as much life, 75% Block, More dmg (High ow too), sins wwing a bva's is like throwing grapes at angry elephants and well the 9k ls (Which would require a pretty high lvl) doesnt appear as strong vs tg wearing barbs.
Well trading ww would be the most stupid thing the sin could do - basically all she can do is play like a weaker trapper wwing gives the barb the oportunity to ww along with her.

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Jul 26 2010 10:31am
Quote (eXeeXe @ Jul 26 2010 04:29pm)
Because barb got twice as much life, 75% Block, More dmg (High ow too), sins wwing a bva's is like throwing grapes at angry elephants and well the 9k ls (Which would require a pretty high lvl) doesnt appear as strong vs tg wearing barbs.
Well trading ww would be the most stupid thing the sin could do - basically all she can do is play like a weaker trapper wwing gives the barb the oportunity to ww along with her.


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Jul 26 2010 10:40am
is my ammy>highlords?
2sin/10fcr/26str/49life/19 all res?
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Quote (eXeeXe @ Jul 26 2010 12:29pm)
Because barb got twice as much life, 75% Block,  More dmg (High ow too), sins wwing a bva's is like throwing grapes at angry elephants and well the 9k ls (Which would require a pretty high lvl) doesnt appear as strong vs tg wearing barbs.
Well trading ww would be the most stupid thing the sin could do - basically all she can do is play like a weaker trapper wwing gives the barb the oportunity to ww along with her.


care to barb vs sin me? its not as ez as you make it sound. 1 mistake and a huge chunk of ur life is gone. with only 1 wep, my dual wwing + traps hurt a lot more than you may think. and since with only 1 wep u do less damage to me, over the long run. range from traps > the duel


Quote (alberster @ Jul 26 2010 12:40pm)
is my ammy>highlords?
2sin/10fcr/26str/49life/19 all res?


eh... its decent... i'd use it if i can get nuff dex for gear

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Jul 26 2010 10:49am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 26 2010 10:48am)
care to barb vs sin me? its not as ez as you make it sound. 1 mistake and a huge chunk of ur life is gone.




eh... its decent... i'd use it if i can get nuff dex for gear


yea i can, it's currently #2 10fcr sin ammy on east atm ^^
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Jul 27 2010 03:09pm
i love my amulet :)

2 Assa / 9 Fcr / 25 Str / 18 Dex / 30 Life / 20 Mana.

Stat amulet ftw.
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