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Jul 26 2010 08:46am
Quote (zeither @ Jul 26 2010 10:43am)
so go for more str on rings over dex?, str and ar.? and the cir is no good?


circlet is useless

u want 2sin/20fcr/life/res/2socs...

bare minimum is 2sin/20fcr/2socs
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Jul 26 2010 08:49am
as far as the ring goes?.
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Jul 26 2010 08:55am
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as far as the ring goes?.


like i said... its only good if u get enough str to wear all ur gear with it. the other mods are good but the killing factor for a fcr ring is the str. like dex u can get from dancers, but str can only be gotten from ring :/ and w/o str from ring u cant wear dancers to get ur dex

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Jul 26 2010 08:59am
Pretty good guide

even tho the conclusion contains alot of half-baked wisdoms and was in my oppinion made from very subjective point of view its jsut not true that hybsins are the best 1v1 char neither their only weakness is a mb nec.
Obivously a decent bva > any hybsin. In Fact hybs are even easier than pure traps since traps can have w/s switch. (And yes Bva not Bvc)
Aside from that Mb nec vs Hybsin isnt a even match up, if mb necs know what their doing plus stay a little defensive i dont see a chance for a hybsin.
I also dont see the "mass advantage" for hybsins facing hammers i think THAT is more of a even duel of course im always emenating from even conditions regarding Gear/Skill.

Still a 10/10 on guide

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Pretty good guide

even tho the conclusion contains alot of half-baked wisdoms and was in my oppinion made from very subjective point of view its jsut not true that hybsins are the best 1v1 char neither their only weakness is a mb nec.
Obivously a decent bva > any hybsin. In Fact hybs are even easier than pure traps since traps can have w/s switch. (And yes Bva not Bvc)
Aside from that Mb nec vs Hybsin isnt a even match up, if mb necs know what their doing plus stay a little defensive i dont see a chance for a hybsin.
I also dont see the "mass advantage" for hybsins facing hammers i think THAT is more of a even duel of course im always emenating from  even conditions regarding Gear/Skill.

Still a 10/10 on guide


thanks for an honest response. however... ANY sin that loses to a hdin should slit... u can beat a hdin with a pure ghost let alone a ww + trap sin

i acutally dont find barbs that difficult for sins and i am still lookin for a barb that can kill me ft5 vs my hybrid on d2pk (i will use all vendor gear only so no bs fake items if anyone wants to duel).

necs are practically impossible for hybrids if they are good. however, most necs are stupid and lack the timing ability so its not that bad. i'd say on a high scale pvp nec > sin but on mediocre, its pretty even (and how often do u find a really godly nec or a really godly sin dueler anyways who reads a guide right?)
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Jul 26 2010 09:10am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 26 Jul 2010 18:04)
thanks for an honest response. however... ANY sin that loses to a hdin should slit... u can beat a hdin with a pure ghost let alone a ww + trap sin

i acutally dont find barbs that difficult for sins and i am still lookin for a barb that can kill me ft5 vs my hybrid on d2pk (i will use all vendor gear only so no bs fake items if anyone wants to duel).

necs are practically impossible for hybrids if they are good. however, most necs are stupid and lack the timing ability so its not that bad. i'd say on a high scale pvp nec > sin but on mediocre, its pretty even (and how often do u find a really godly nec or a really godly sin dueler anyways who reads a guide right?)


shame barb is totally unplayable for me there >_> I dont really see anything difficult about 65 fcr sin, I can generally chain 102fcr c/c trappers down (chase when not swirlied and if you get mbd then back off and wait for swirlies to run out) and hybrid is slower and lacks max mb

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Jul 26 2010 09:11am
i actually think both hybrids and trappers rape barbs ;/

also saying that you can't go w/s with a hybrid is wrong

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Jul 26 2010 09:14am
Quote (Tails chao @ 26 Jul 2010 18:11)
i actually think both hybrids and trappers rape barbs ;/

also saying that you can't go w/s with a hybrid is wrong


w/s trappers are tough as they tank so much

but barb can kill c/c trappers just fine and I think hybrids should be doable too, its like a worse trapper with the exception of being able to ww me if I wsg
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Jul 26 2010 09:15am
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w/s trappers are tough as they tank so much

but barb can kill c/c trappers just fine and I think hybrids should be doable too, its like a worse trapper with the exception of being able to ww me if I wsg


yeah the amount w/s tanks is ridiculous, but I still think c/c trappers have a slight adv too. dont get hit etc etc

also again you can make a hybrid very very similar to a w/s trapper!
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Jul 26 2010 09:19am
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yeah the amount w/s tanks is ridiculous, but I still think c/c trappers have a slight adv too. dont get hit etc etc

also again you can make a hybrid very very similar to a w/s trapper!


can be actually really hard to not get hit

basicly if you dont get swirlies on me I will usually hit you^^
and cant always rely on shadow to cast it for you and its not that easy to cast it on me yourself when im chasing you

yea if your hybrid is max mb 1 venom build with trap sks at least in stash then it can be made quite similar
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