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Aug 30 2010 03:35pm
Quote (Andrewchos @ Aug 30 2010 05:32pm)
Dude you had nothing to add to this conversation and truly have no idea what your talking about, you just repeated exactly what synonym said and acted like you know what your talking about which makes you look dumb as shit.

33% chance means it has a 1/3 chance or so of proccing which isnt bad but that means every 1-3 or 1-6 hits it will go off now every hit thats retarded.  its 4.5frames per attack not attack per second.


Apparently repeating what Synonym said didn't manage to convince you, so I'm not sure why there was a problem with that..

Actually, it is 4.5 attacks per second (which translates to 5.5 fpa)..

And 1/3 chance of procing means that it procs once in 3 hits, not once in 6 hits.. and if you do more than 3 hits per second (which you do, seeing as you do 4.5 hits per second and 4.5 > 3), you proc DS every second, which was what I meant..

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Lvl 1 decrep only last's for 4 second's and alot of the time dstrike and decrep wont go off at the same time, thats why over time ebotdwp will be doing better damage in trav and atleast do it as quickly if not quicker then reapers. it also doesnt pop body's and doesnt require luck to hit good damage. reaper's is a fine weapon but specifically for gf barbs I do not think its the best choice. even if it was somehow a tiny bit faster it wouldnt be worth it for me to lose those 5-6 or more body's then having a 10 second longer run (not that I think it would take longer with ebotd)

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Btw I would add one more merc for the PvM PnB necromancer.

Prayer merc with Infinity, treachery and Andariel's Visage with Iron golem insight.
PnB necs blow in PvM without Corpse Explosion and they lack mana without insight so this setup gives us both.

Amp + conviction + CE deals massive damage.


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Still this


Took it under advisement ^^
Do what Zappy did in one of the earlier pages, and write it neatly :)
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Aug 30 2010 03:39pm
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Lvl 1 decrep only last's for 4 second's and alot of the time dstrike and decrep wont go off at the same time, thats why over time I think ebotdwp will be doing better damage in trav and atleast do it as quickly if not quicker then reapers.  it also doesnt pop body's and doesnt require luck to hit good damage.  reaper's is a fine weapon but specifically for gf barbs I do not think its the best choice.  even if it was somehow a tiny bit faster it wouldnt be worth it for me to lose those 5-6 or more body's then having a 10 second longer run (not that I think it would take longer with ebotd)


Level 1 decrepify only lasts for 4 seconds, agreed.

The merc attacks 4.5 times per second, and having a 33% chance of casting decrepify, which is once every 3 attacks, it can be safe to assume that decrepify casts every 1 second.

It lasts 4 seconds and casts every 1 second, pretty much meaning that the decrepify is never off..

And it has nothing to do with luck.. it's plain logic..

Losing those 5-6 bodies would be worth it since it allows you to do 2 extra runs in the same time which will definitely more than compensate for those 5-6 lost bodies..

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Aug 30 2010 03:42pm
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Level 1 decrepify only lasts for 4 seconds, agreed.

The merc attacks 4.5 times per second, and having a 33% chance of casting decrepify, which is once every 3 attacks, it can be safe to assume that decrepify casts every 1 second.

It lasts 4 seconds and casts every 1 second, pretty much meaning that the decrepify is never off..

And it has nothing to do with luck.. it's plain logic..

Losing those 5-6 bodies would be worth it since it allows you to do 2 extra runs in the same time which will definitely more than compensate for those 5-6 lost bodies..


Except for the fact that neither decrep nor ds will go off every attack and every second and that over time in a trav run consistent botd dmg will be greater then the peak's and valleys of reaper's which go from slightly higher then ebotd when both go off to wayyy lower without it.

I prefer the huge consistent damage and the zero popped body's many other people prefer it which is why most guide's select it as the proper weapon. :)

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Aug 30 2010 03:43pm
just for fun..o please calculate this..

1.etoll+tresh+gui=dmg merc

VS
2.obe+rattlecage+gui=dmg merc

both are 75 ias merc

(2.)(i use beast to boost merc ias to 75 ias)

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Aug 30 2010 03:45pm
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Except for the fact that neither decrep nor ds will go off every attack and every second and that over time in a trav run consistent botd dmg will be greater then the peak's and valleys of reaper's which go from slightly higher then ebotd when both go off to wayyy lower without it.

I prefer the huge consistent damage and the zero popped body's many other people prefer it which is why most guide's select it as the proper weapon. :)


your basis for that bolded blue statement? or is it just one of your assumptions?

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Aug 30 2010 03:48pm
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your basis for that bolded blue statement? or is it just one of your assumptions?


Your a genius, you actually think decrep will go off every hit or be active for more then 50% of the time. same with deadly strike. even with both going off the damage is not significantly higher then normal botd damage and over time botd will do much more damage and do trav quicker.
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Quote (Synonym @ 31 Aug 2010 00:36)
Took it under advisement ^^
Do what Zappy did in one of the earlier pages, and write it neatly :)


Well it's exactly the same as your "Hazade the Judge" but without Holy freeze since you don't want any bodies popping.

I picked prayer since that seemed the most useful for me.
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