like i said we dont have your charms on west.

thats also a setup similar to yours.

for the max mana setup it pushes 5.4k mana.

less being a smartass. more accually presenting a logical argument.

Edit: its not half your dmg. being as the sorc i use doesn't have max'd blizz for obvious reasons.

ice blast is the main attack. being that said its 7k. your ice blast with full charm setup is around what 9k?

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Apr 29 2009 04:29pm

same on europe m8

and you showed your fail by saying you didnt max blizz, lol, go back playing ice blast sorc and good luck. XD

This post was edited by maximus_le_roi on Apr 29 2009 04:36pm

because your going to land blizz in svs right? riiiight...... blizz has its uses but it doesn't have many uses in svs vs people that know what they are doing.

ISO a decent argument? or wiat you dont have one. so you resort to your pub bashing skills. typical jsp.

No, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Especially in svs, anything over 4k mana won't help. Mana dies in 2 fbs, the point is to run and regen.

This is the major misconception: mana isn't an es sorc's life, it protects the es sorc's life. You die when life runs out, not mana. Therefore, es % and replenish life are more important stats than having more mana, especially when you're already at 4k+.

ps, my sorc has over 4k mana easily, and uses all facets.

This post was edited by simon311A on Apr 29 2009 11:22pm

you have bmanas on west. the best we have is 20/17's 10 of those and a 200%es fb gets about is 3.7 with esc and 3.8 with hoto.


being as that i'm mainly a cold vs cold dueler in priv games. your mana doesn't die in 2 hits vs them. a blizz sorc, a iceblast sorc. no thank you. dmg isn't high enough even with 9gcs.

i do duel other types of sorcs so dont go all. zomg you dont duel other types of sorcs. ~~NOOB~~.

especially sence ths has turned into a bashing fest instead of accually criticizm or strat....

but yes vs fire sorcs its about 4-5 hits and ther egoes the mana.

and vs lit sorcs its about 2-3 yes. (vita that is, es is around 37k dmg so its about a good 3-4)

really dont see the point in usen all facets. especially on a fb sorc. unless your going to go pubbing with it and want to lower someones total resistance sence most people dont stack vs fire........

i mean really if your going to use it for pure svs then you dont really need to lower someones resistance... the 5% to dmg i guess is nice but the needed stre to toss on a ebug spirit is still 146.

even with a 20stre helm as well as a 30stre ammy. thats still alot of stre needed to pump in there. that you could. in your eyes pump into life............... or perhaps block?


i just love the bashing. i do however agree regn is just as important. but how well is regn going to work if say a fire sorc tops you and gets 2-3 firebolts to your face? and kills you. cant really regn when your dead.......

personally? i prefer the survivability as opposed to regn.

being able to tank 4-5 hits from a vita fb and 2-3 from a vita lit is pretty hawt imho.

Edit: so you use the spray and prey technique. in your duels.
get hit. keep running while spamming your fballs at them. hopen one lands. once your mana is sifficiant. go in try to get a hit. if you get hit. run away regn'n your mana while spamming fballs at them. go in try to land some hits. ect ect?

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Apr 30 2009 02:13am

I would stop bashing if you didn't keep talking out of your ass. I never said a fire/lit should ever use facet. Blizz should use it to increase damage.

4.1+ mana is reachable without bmanas, and those are on east btw (where I play).

vs fb, mana dies in 2 hits, you cannot take 3. This just shows how little you actually know about svs.

lol? mana dies in 2 hits. would you like to build your sorc on d2pk? i'll build my sorc on west on there. then you can shoot me TWICE. and i'll take a screen shot of it.

tho it might be difficult to get the circ i use vs fb sorcs.



you never said they should. but you said you do. i never said they should either. take time to read. instead of getting all worked up.

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Apr 30 2009 02:16am

23k fb = 4k after pvp = 3k after tk

learn math?

apply max'd resistance as well as vmagi/spirit absorb as well as the time regn happens inbetween 2 straight hits.

its minimal. but its there.

This post was edited by UnEvilManiac on Apr 30 2009 02:18am

no

resists are applied after es

same with mdr, ma

This post was edited by simon311A on Apr 30 2009 02:18am