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Jul 18 2008 01:52pm
Quote (APPOLE @ Fri, Jul 18 2008, 07:47pm)
proof?
game for smash?
p.s. you really aint sick
and valedictorian in your basement really isnt saying much you bumbleclott bammer ass trick
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Jul 18 2008 01:58pm
Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Fri, Jul 18 2008, 06:59am)
the difference is so obvious that any normally developed grown-up should spot it immediately. maybe i'm a machine though, ty compliment.


failed @ reading comprehension.

Quote (Abductor @ Fri, Jul 18 2008, 08:24am)
brown enough tongue already?

now now, he is theorycrafting with every breath he takes. he's not even a good dueler and his "setup" requires gear switches against every single opponent. basically you don't either have 102 fcr and cbf with c/c all the time. what's good about it?

and still, it's just a trapper utilizing chaos. yawn old news i came up with it 2 years ago.


dear christ. you just don't read do you? i'm not even going to respond to this shit with an answer because you obviously aren't even trying.

btw, that goes for all the other retards on this thread spewing the same stuff over and over and over.
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Jul 18 2008 02:00pm
you arent good
give it up
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Jul 18 2008 02:19pm
Quote (APPOLE @ Fri, Jul 18 2008, 12:00pm)
you arent good
give it up


i never said i was. this is a guide, for people who want to build a fun and competitive assassin. it's not perfect. it's not a declaration of my superiority. I'm sorry your ego is tied into this so much, I'm gonna recommend therapy.

btw....


DARK KNIGHT IS THE FUCKING BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR.
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Jul 18 2008 02:33pm
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i never said i was.  this is a guide, for people who want to build a fun and competitive assassin.  it's not perfect.  it's not a declaration of my superiority.  I'm sorry your ego is tied into this so much, I'm gonna recommend therapy.

btw....


DARK KNIGHT IS THE FUCKING BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR.


your guide isnt good and will not result in anything resembling a competitive dueler, not to mention the lack of originality which will doom it to be unfun.

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Jul 18 2008 10:16pm
topic can be closed.
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Jul 19 2008 01:18am
Quote (APPOLE @ Fri, Jul 18 2008, 12:33pm)
your guide isnt good and will not result in anything resembling a competitive dueler, not to mention the lack of originality which will doom it to be unfun.


clearly you haven't looked at the other guides. sure, this guide isn't perfect and i've never said otherwise. but look at the other guides in the stickies and nearly all of them are worse. the pvm STICKIED TRAPPER GUIDE actually suggests using tmc in order to get bps. the_rain's trapper guide is riddled with flaws. HOFX's kicker guide is a joke. most of the hybrid and ghost guides are the same old setup. I don't think ANY of them have a 102 c/c setup, with either helm. So any criticisms you might have of my guide or my setup mean jack shit because the reality is that it's still better than 90% of the stickies.

As far as competitive, if you've still got sand in your vagina over griffs vs valk, I can assure you that either helm will result in a quite playable assassin. I'm sure a valk or a griffs assassin could both do nearly equally well. I think the massive pages and pages of arguments (none of which you've read, I'm sure) show that. There's pros and cons to each one. In the end, it matters little. but in reality, there are not a lot of perm valks to go around, and most people who read this guide aren't prepared to spend many thousands of fg on it. So even if (and it's a big if) valk was better than griffs, i'd STILL put griffs as the helm, because this guide is designed to help as many people as possible, not for five people who spend their doctor's salaries on fg to make a perfect build.

as far as originality, i don't know what you want. there ARE no original ideas in diablo. And the majority of "original" builds end up getting sold off within a few days or weeks because - surprise! - losing isn't fun, and most "original" builds are "original" because no one intelligent wanted to make them. I don't even know why you're TALKING about originality, i don't even recall SAYING this build was original. It's a slight modification of a fairly common trapper build. Personally, I find trappers to be very fun, even if they aren't original, and I find ww to be a fun (and useful) addition, even if it's not very original, and I even think it's fun to teach a lesson to the mh kiddies who don't understand why i use griffs. fun is extremely subjective. I think this build is fun because it's fast and requires a lot of hotkeys and know-how. If bearzons are what make you have fun, go for it.

This guide is, and has always been, my free service to people who want to build a fun, playable assassin. Most of those people aren't going to be dueling the best players on the realm. They're going to be playing a lot of random other people, and against the majority of people this guide works very well. I'm not pushing any of this on people. If you don't like the build, don't buid it. If you don't want other people to make this build, make your own damn guide. But the bottom line is that I've helped many, many people to make fun and powerful assassins (and I know there's a lot because they ALL pm me...sigh), and you've done nothing useful but sit on the sidelines and spit.
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Jul 19 2008 01:24am
31 pages of crap, congrat im getting another beer.
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Quote (funkynoc1 @ Fri, Jul 18 2008, 11:24pm)
31 pages of crap, congrat im getting another beer.


first sensible thing i've heard all day.
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Jul 19 2008 02:23am
Quote (darcanegel @ Fri, Jul 18 2008, 11:18pm)
clearly you haven't looked at the other guides.  sure, this guide isn't perfect and i've never said otherwise.  but look at the other guides in the stickies and nearly all of them are worse.  the pvm STICKIED TRAPPER GUIDE actually suggests using tmc in order to get bps.  the_rain's trapper guide is riddled with flaws.  HOFX's kicker guide is a joke.  most of the hybrid and ghost guides are the same old setup.  I don't think ANY of them have a 102 c/c setup, with either helm.  So any criticisms you might have of my guide or my setup mean jack shit because the reality is that it's still better than 90% of the stickies. 

As far as competitive, if you've still got sand in your vagina over griffs vs valk, I can assure you that either helm will result in a quite playable assassin.  I'm sure a valk or a griffs assassin could both do nearly equally well.  I think the massive pages and pages of arguments (none of which you've read, I'm sure) show that.  There's pros and cons to each one.  In the end, it matters little.  but in reality, there are not a lot of perm valks to go around, and most people who read this guide aren't prepared to spend many thousands of fg on it.  So even if (and it's a big if) valk was better than griffs, i'd STILL put griffs as the helm, because this guide is designed to help as many people as possible, not for five people who spend their doctor's salaries on fg to make a perfect build.

as far as originality, i don't know what you want.  there ARE no original ideas in diablo.  And the majority of "original" builds end up getting sold off within a few days or weeks because - surprise! - losing isn't fun, and most "original" builds are "original" because no one intelligent wanted to make them.  I don't even know why you're TALKING about originality, i don't even recall SAYING this build was original.  It's a slight modification of a fairly common trapper build.  Personally, I find trappers to be very fun, even if they aren't original, and I find ww to be a fun (and useful) addition, even if it's not very original, and I even think it's fun to teach a lesson to the mh kiddies who don't understand why i use griffs.  fun is extremely subjective.  I think this build is fun because it's fast and requires a lot of hotkeys and know-how.  If bearzons are what make you have fun, go for it.

This guide is, and has always been, my free service to people who want to build a fun, playable assassin.  Most of those people aren't going to be dueling the best players on the realm.  They're going to be playing a lot of random other people, and against the majority of people this guide works very well.  I'm not pushing any of this on people.  If you don't like the build, don't buid it.  If you don't want other people to make this build, make your own damn guide.  But the bottom line is that I've helped many, many people to make fun and powerful assassins (and I know there's a lot because they ALL pm me...sigh), and you've done nothing useful but sit on the sidelines and spit.


tl; dr rage post

you've helped some people make a shittier version of a tpk trapper
congrats.
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