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Oct 26 2022 10:42am
oldschool BM hammerdin used to carry the Widowmaker on weapon swap and then spam Guided Arrow. Is this still a thing?
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Oct 26 2022 11:12am
Quote (dannywanghere @ Oct 26 2022 08:45am)
So basically, your entire strategy is to absorb your opponent, and if you can't absorb them you lose. Doesn't sound very fun. Also, that's a huge item investment just to get laughed at in pubs and still lose half your matches

If you want to BM you should make a plague Zon. You can still absorb but it's way easier to hit people with plague jav than it is to hit with hammer and you get more useful skills like DAE and slow missles. No one mitigates poison properly in pub



My vs all setup does great against most things. I just have bm stack/sorb if I need or want to vs all elements. I can also do well against poison and I can grief and hf zons if I want to get real bm. Melee enemies are a joke of course with 45 dr max block and fatty hammers.

I have all other characters built for pvp and this pally can also be a vt/mage/daydreamer. This is just one of many builds both bm and gm that I have for when I feel like it. If someone gets mad and grabs a hard counter, I can always do the same.

Pub life…
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Oct 26 2022 11:16am
Quote (escroto @ Oct 26 2022 08:58am)
I would argue it is fun to make fire/cold sorc/trapsins cry



I make all elements cry. Cs zons with 50k that barely tickle are the funnest. They get real mad when they cant 1 shot.

Melee enemies are also a joke of course.

The only struggles are windy with zoo, bone especially with revives, and some very good bowzons, but grief and holy freeze usually renders them useless.
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Oct 26 2022 11:17am
Quote (NateFizzle @ Oct 26 2022 10:12am)
My vs all setup does great against most things. I just have bm stack/sorb if I need or want to vs all elements. I can also do well against poison and I can grief and hf zons if I want to get real bm. Melee enemies are a joke of course with 45 dr max block and fatty hammers.

I have all other characters built for pvp and this pally can also be a vt/mage/daydreamer. This is just one of many builds both bm and gm that I have for when I feel like it. If someone gets mad and grabs a hard counter, I can always do the same.

Pub life…


I doubt you are "doing well against most things" without absorb. According to your post your build doesn't even have foh so I'm not sure how you're ever going to land a hammer against good players
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Oct 26 2022 11:25am
Quote (NateFizzle @ Oct 26 2022 06:16pm)
I make all elements cry. Cs zons with 50k that barely tickle are the funnest. They get real mad when they cant 1 shot.

Melee enemies are also a joke of course.

The only struggles are windy with zoo, bone especially with revives, and some very good bowzons, but grief and holy freeze usually renders them useless.


I'm gonna make a smiter with maxed holy freeze
is smite any good now?
haven't played since the changes
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Oct 26 2022 11:28am
Quote (dannywanghere @ Oct 26 2022 10:17am)
I doubt you are "doing well against most things" without absorb. According to your post your build doesn't even have foh so I'm not sure how you're ever going to land a hammer against good players



My vs all has enough life and cold with raven to tank a massive blizz and 80 fire/light res with heavy stack to counter conviction. 45 dr and max block. If you don’t think that can do well vs all in pubs then I don’t know what you think could be better. Basic tele stomp with 13.5k hammers 2 shots everything except bvc or summon stack.

I don’t “need” massive sorb, it just guarantees wins if I feel like bming.
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Oct 26 2022 11:36am
Quote (NateFizzle @ Oct 26 2022 10:28am)
My vs all has enough life and cold with raven to tank a massive blizz and 80 fire/light res with heavy stack to counter conviction. 45 dr and max block. If you don’t think that can do well vs all in pubs then I don’t know what you think could be better. Basic tele stomp with 13.5k hammers 2 shots everything except bvc or summon stack.

I don’t “need” massive sorb, it just guarantees wins if I feel like bming.


I'm pretty sure my ESFB could face tank you without summons, you'll immediately need absorb if you don't learn how to smite/foh, 80% res isn't enough.

You aren't wearing tgods or wisp so a CS Zon is going to 1-2 shot you and tank with valk/DAE

Any ranged caster or zon is going to kite you forever and you'll never land a hammer

You are going to need absorb. Those stats are meaningless except maybe against physical melee (lol melee in pubs) if you can't play hammer properly
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Oct 26 2022 11:43am
Quote (RRRingeRRR @ 26 Oct 2022 18:42)
oldschool BM hammerdin used to carry the Widowmaker on weapon swap and then spam Guided Arrow. Is this still a thing?


Thats not bm
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Oct 26 2022 12:01pm
Quote (dannywanghere @ Oct 26 2022 10:36am)
I'm pretty sure my ESFB could face tank you without summons, you'll immediately need absorb if you don't learn how to smite/foh, 80% res isn't enough.

You aren't wearing tgods or wisp so a CS Zon is going to 1-2 shot you and tank with valk/DAE

Any ranged caster or zon is going to kite you forever and you'll never land a hammer

You are going to need absorb. Those stats are meaningless except maybe against physical melee (lol melee in pubs) if you can't play hammer properly



Yeah es fb hard counters hammers, so I would 95 res and sorb you and grief charge/smite/hammer you. You would heal me and I would wear you down or you would just run.

I’ve beaten plenty of javazons without bm sorb, but like I said it’s just a guaranteed win with it.

No vs all build is going to destroy everything in the game and I never claimed mine does. OP asked for a good hammer build and I posted mine. If you want to post yours then go for it.
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Oct 26 2022 12:23pm
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This prolly the best hdin guide on this site, even if some things are a lil outdated
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