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Oct 18 2022 09:35am
Quote (Orderoutofchaos @ Oct 18 2022 05:05pm)
i just wrecked 1 man chaos and with 30 k defence im pretty much almost untouchable so im gonna stick with exile lol, that was without the ias breakpoint

lol i said 8 i meant 1, this char way too slow for 8 man


Physical zealer can't wreck p8 even with grief. Tesladin with dual dream is another story. My favourite physical zealer is conviction paladin for p1-3 with lots of CB and 1-71 light dmg scs.

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Oct 18 2022 09:47am
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Physical zealer can't wreck p8 even with grief. Tesladin with dual dream is another story. My favourite physical zealer is conviction paladin for p1-3 with lots of CB and 1-71 light dmg scs.



Can a Tesla carry p8? I’ve been curious about making one
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Oct 18 2022 09:58am
Quote (EndlessFlame @ Oct 18 2022 05:47pm)
Can a Tesla carry p8? I’ve been curious about making one


Theoretically could, practically, not recommended. Point is with skills like zeal or ww, they aren't AOE but single target ones. Instead of killing every monster fast you hit all of them one by one from close distance which hast got an overhead on how fast you can clear. Also with zeal, you have to be close to monsters and cannot move. You can be surrounded real fast, too. This is why edeath is so nice. All none cold immune monsters are frozen in their tracks.

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Oct 18 2022 10:02am
Quote (babun1024 @ Oct 18 2022 11:58am)
Theoretically could, practically, not recommended. Point is with skills like zeal or ww, they aren't AOE but single target ones. Instead of killing every monster fast you hit all of them one by one from close distance which hast got an overhead on how fast you can clear. Also with zeal, you have to be close to monsters and cannot move. You can be surrounded real fast, too. This is why edeath is so nice. All none cold immune monsters are frozen in their tracks.


Repears toll gets rid of immunes wirh merc?
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Oct 18 2022 10:27am
Quote (Orderoutofchaos @ Oct 18 2022 06:02pm)
Repears toll gets rid of immunes wirh merc?


Nope, you don't care about immunes with tesladin. You kill them with grief. All others fall to grief + holy shock+ conviction aura. You could also try to put more emphasis on holy shock by using crescent moon pb. Reaper merc is just there to increase physical damage side of tesladin (I max sacrifice then the rest into zeal).

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Great to see a PvMer doing Zeal. I play PvM Zeal a ton and I struggle with this too. I love using the Death BA but hitting the IAS breakpoint sucks. No great ways around it. I end up using Grief PB because it’s just as good and doesn’t require much tweaking. I however also hate just resorting to a Grief so I dabble with Botd and Heaven’s Light.

As for the shield, Hoz is the way to go. You don’t need that much defense in PvM and the Hoz aids in resist and skills. Hoz = #1 in my book.

String of Ears > Verdungos (not by much though imo)

I focus my build around high damage and high life. Don’t really need too much defense or damaged reduced in PvM as Holy Shield is enough protection. Rather I prefer to focus on IAS, DS, CB, FHR and keeping my resistances maxed.
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Oct 18 2022 11:38am
Quote (bs21 @ Oct 18 2022 01:31pm)
Great to see a PvMer doing Zeal. I play PvM Zeal a ton and I struggle with this too. I love using the Death BA but hitting the IAS breakpoint sucks. No great ways around it. I end up using Grief PB because it’s just as good and doesn’t require much tweaking. I however also hate just resorting to a Grief so I dabble with Botd and Heaven’s Light.

As for the shield, Hoz is the way to go. You don’t need that much defense in PvM and the Hoz aids in resist and skills. Hoz = #1 in my book.

String of Ears > Verdungos (not by much though imo)

I focus my build around high damage and high life. Don’t really need too much defense or damaged reduced in PvM as Holy Shield is enough protection. Rather I prefer to focus on IAS, DS, CB, FHR and keeping my resistances maxed.


nice yea I really like the Death build i just completed it

15ias/14@ jewel was my solution in the gface expensive but worthy
highlords
death e zerker
Fort ap 15 sup
Exile E v with 1107 defence and 41 all res
gores
LOH
nos coil
Raven
dual leech ring

i got a sunder charm whitch im going to test not sure if i want to use it for ubers but my guy is pretty much untouchable in any 8 player pvm content ( doesnt kill fast enough for my liking in p8 but can tank anything and stand in souls way )

I think this setup is the best and gives me 80 fire light res
Im having alot more fun with death and from my testing it seems to be killing slightly faster , i need more ar though i got 6900 so with charms it will outpreform grief.

grief build i switch out coil for string , and death for a grief with 40 ias probally going to also leave sunder charm in stash for ubers.

this guy is zeal smite hybrid i have sacrifice zeal and holy shield maxed and like 10 points in smite

This post was edited by Orderoutofchaos on Oct 18 2022 11:41am
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Oct 18 2022 12:34pm
Use eth death cleaver. It's better weap for zealer then grief.
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Quote (timurgrw @ Oct 18 2022 02:34pm)
Use eth death cleaver. It's better weap for zealer then grief.

Not for PvM.
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Oct 18 2022 06:49pm
What babun said is the best option since you want to stick with exile. I personally prefer death ettin over ba for more damage, but it would require hoz for the extra socket so don't think you'd go for it :)

Quote (respeconize8 @ Oct 18 2022 03:04am)
and the rest of his gear has to be weird gimped niche shit to hit ias breakpoint. just use grief


Not gimped at all if you know what to use

Quote (Flameyes @ Oct 18 2022 09:39am)
Nos is a very large downgrade over dungos I don’t get what you’re trying to argue

And if you have to sacrifice anything for “comparable” damage to grief it’s already worse :bonk:


Nos coil is better than verdungos for pvm though. You don't need to worry about dr so the stats on nos coil are more helpful than verdungos.
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