Bf Sin Seems Fun Now^^ - Topic

Both zons are made for beeing able to wear replacement eq like infernostrides, swordbackhold's etc... But i did not put any effort into light or cold stack eq.

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Jun 23 2022 05:23am

i know it would be hard to find those items, but here is zeal-charge-bow-smite hybrid:
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/ds0206zt

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Jun 23 2022 02:56pm

Quote (gel87 @ Jun 23 2022 01:23pm)

i know it would be hard to find those items, but here is zeal-charge-bow-smite hybrid:
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/ds0206zt

Since this helm is pretty hard to find i will tell a more normal build without letting it be pure standard:
Lets assume u find:
2pala/20fcr/visio/2soc. We do put bercham in it to open up space for oak and abs vis wisp. (or u berber it and find secondary diadem with bercham for vs java/assa/light sorc)
Then we swap forti with enigma.
Then we swap ias gloves for trang oul's.
Then we swap um rune in widowmaker for 15ias/15max in widowmaker to hit breakpoints.

You May also choose to not teleport, but i would use teleport at the cost of those 300% ed.

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Jun 23 2022 03:07pm

Quote (gel87 @ May 28 2022 06:09pm)

Not anymore^^ 46/50 it says.

Made now PSN DAGGER SORK!
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/gb01068n

No precast is involved, venom from arach is equipped.

Stats speaks for itself:
75% es (if u bother precast u get: 6 more from es memory, 3 more from helm, 1 more from ammu, 1 more from secondary soj, 2 more from 3es ormus = 88%. I did not even bother making it xD)
20 base tk
U can also go all in and precast enchant: 5 more Chant/fire mastery orb, 9 more via skillers, 3 more via helm(and 2 facets), 1 more via ammu, 3 more via 3ench ormus and 20% FEUER, 1 more magefist, 1 more secondary soj. = 25 more skills to fire mastery and enchant and 30% fire increase on top.
75% block
3,2k mana
1,3k life
good resists

Oki now dmg profiles(no chest precast).
Venom/Psn dagger psn damage: 945-1163 over 3,6 seconds(remember the -100 plr in hell)
Light damage: 115-66600
Fire damage: 2045-2416
Cold dmg: 1-6
physical dmg: 64-479
Sums up at: 3170 - 70739 damage!
Attacks per second: 9pfa aka 2,77 attacks pr second.

Thunder storm: 2548-3190

Holy shock aura:
6-3368 at long range
12-6736 at close range
and ofc 2 ticks of this pr time.

Lr cast from knife:
-43 enemy res.

Ofc u can choose or find sword with same stats but zeal charges.

Attack raing base: 75+1630+1733+120 = 3558
Bonuses:
Enchant: 299%
Psn dagger: 110%
Zeal: 40%

Full ar on psn dagger: 18110

Zeal attackspeed and ar:
3,28 attacks per second.
Full ar on zeal: 15619

Actually put some more thought into this.
Just to realize i have been working to much with pheonix today to forget this sorc use dream xD

This post was edited by gel87 on Jun 23 2022 03:10pm

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#37

Jun 23 2022 09:28pm

Quote (gel87 @ May 26 2022 08:43am)

Yo, just wanted to see how a PVP BF sin would do now.

been playing a bf sin this season in pvp

its a lot of fun, although the build hits a wall vs some opponent types, mainly maxblock kills it.
but very fun build for pubbing or fighting casual opponents.
doesnt seem to be tournament viable tho, mainly due to black and white matchups.

my build is somewhat different than yours.
mainly I dont have a fat fools/300/eth repair warfist, so Im using a last wish zerker since that seems to outdo the damage on all but the highest end claws.

after some testing of different variations, I also settled on a very dex high spec. seems to work best for bladesin, although no weapon block and low hp makes it a glass cannon.
I think other variations are also viable tho, have a friend who has a c/c bladesin on ladder using poison charms, kinda bm but its working out well for him in pubs.

Im also looking into the possibility of a LS/bf spec, but skill points are very tight lol

anyways, fun stuff :bouncy:

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Jun 23 2022 11:19pm

Quote (Ziecheik @ Jun 24 2022 05:28am)

Well, the high deadly strike % helps a lot.
You will loose bonuses on claw mastery, im unsure if the bug with none working AR bonus from claw mastery is still a thing. But there is still ed and critic.

The difference between a high end fool's, a fury and a plague was not very big in tearms of damage due to high internal damage in skill, but a fool's claw gain loads more ar.

Still a couple houndred more base damage and 50% ds and 50% cb might overdo claw mastery as you say ;D

Yes, they a fun chars, but i wish they do would something about the slow animation of starting and stopping the skill

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Jun 24 2022 01:34am

Made a fun Charge/Zeal/Foh dream din ^^
Armor can be changed with the one that gives 30% dr if needed.

Deals 5k foh, and can abs more via changin 1 raven to either dwarf or wisp. But wisp would be bm ammount vs light.
It has 25% cb. Which helps a little.
It have a few k of physical damage. Maby 3-4k after deadly strike on average.

Its tolls around 17k zeal and charge dmg.
With -170 enemy lr.
It can cast inner sight for -125% enemy def
It use conv for -92% enemy def

And it has 3266 ar prior to buffs.
Adding only enchant and it will 10k. Then ofc zeal/charge adds some ass well.
So i guess end ar is around 12-13k.
One can swap scs for ar/life or max/ar/life if want more ar.

https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/q40106pr

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Jun 24 2022 11:49am

Quote (gel87 @ Jun 24 2022 01:19am)

You will loose bonuses on claw mastery, im unsure if the bug with none working AR bonus from claw mastery is still a thing. But there is still ed and critic.

I've actually heard conflicting things about claw mastery and blade skills.

the in game character screen shows a damage and ar boost when claw mastery is increased, but we all know the character screen can not be trusted.
maxroll shows no damage increase from claw mastery being maxed in the character calculator.

someone told me the damage increase works for blade skills but ar and ds% does not? not confirmed.

tbh it's been kind of hard testing these things on closed bnet because of the already wtfbbq high damage of blade skills and a lot of variable factors.
I dont have access to hero edit right now to do some more clear cut tests.

I am finding more success with my last wish setup than I did with my c/c setups using fury and chaos, but I do want to get to the bottom of if claw mastery works or not because I think plague is actually a pretty solid non-fools claw choice with high ed% and ds%. and I have some bf plague claws waiting for me once ladder rolls over.

any input on where I would search for this info?
or if anyone has hero edit would they be willing to test?

This post was edited by Ziecheik on Jun 24 2022 11:50am

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