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Sep 26 2021 01:33pm


as u can see different combos, their details are different, for the one u mentioned, (let's just use normal RW cuz I'm not familiar with God or BoD), it's Beast + Grief dual Zerk axe combo.
And I would say, it's not doable with Enigma, u have to be a walk boxer, (but I will calculate if u could make it by changing bases to higher str require one)

The Reason is, u've already got 137 strength now, with Fal BO wps, strength will be transferred to ur main hand Beast, then those wps are visible, not "in red", cuz u got enough "on tab" strength.

if u want to use both FalFal BO, on off-hand, those 2x BO have totally 40str, plus ur anni, torch (I use perf stat here), u got 40 more, plus G-face, 30+40+40=110, u need 5 more points for G-face,
after u equipped G-face, now u got 130, to make the glitch work, u have to add at least 8 points more.
Now u can switch to main hand and see the perm Aura.

- Why 138 off-hand str at least?
1. u got 138 off-hand str plus 15 from G-face, switch to main hand, -40 from BO wps, -15 from G-face (no enough str), now u only have 83 str.
2. but since we "glitch weared" G-face, so when we switch to main hand, we also "glitch equipped" Beast,
3. 83 str + 15 str from G-face + 40 str from Beast, actually we got 138 strength in total.

Best equip all gears then reset, if u can make the aura visible, and the aura is perm, even after switching back, and no weapons shown on char, then glitch works.

I put detailed steps in the dual LM vid, it's also str glitch:




This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 26 2021 01:43pm
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Sep 26 2021 01:41pm


And I just saw ur last comment about Boxer Paladin,
I mean it's the same way to do as Barb, u know, str glitch wear G-face first by Fal'd item, switch to main, WP and shield "in red", and why ppl w/o get this bug is because no one use a Fal'd shield aside CTA?

but boxer pal has nothing to do, Boxer Smiter I feel a little bit slower than 7F (im not sure), basically useless.

Whirlwind I now guess no effect, just the animation get glitched, funny to see it on Bnet

This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 26 2021 01:45pm
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Sep 26 2021 02:15pm


Ettin Axe base work with Enigma

I tried with Runemaster Ettin Axe, cuz it's str require is 145 higher than Zerk, tho have to remove either Anni or Torch for lower base str, (or u have 10-20 anni & 10-20 Torch)
at least it can work with Enigma this time.

socket some runes to make the result obvious.


Main Gears
one of Ettin socketed w/ a Fal rune, here see it as a Ettin Beast runeword.
Kite shield with 2x Fal (or 2x Fal'd low strength requirement Magic 3WC weapon)

Result

In right side image shows the result, flee% from Ettin 1 and Blind from Ettin 2 both are both working.


Boot side Ettin with Fal is like a +str Beast, Glove side is like a Grief,
Beast + Grief dual Ettin, with lvl 20 Frenzy, lvl9 aura, Highlord can hit 5F BP,

so I guess, it could also hit 3F Frenzy after using boxer glitch


This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 26 2021 02:24pm
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Sep 26 2021 02:28pm
Are ur items supposed to be red when fighting?

Hmm, i guess i have to try somehow on asgard maby. But on asgard i cant get unperf annie
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Sep 26 2021 02:55pm

Yes, at least one in red, I mean u can get half-boxer (1 wp shown 1 wp in red), this noon I tried PB Grief + botd CB, this 1xfist 1xsword build is also pretty good,
"in red" in order to equip the item in a invisible way,
it's like something that replace the Frenzy animation with punching
u can remove the anni like I said if no unperf to try it first.
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Sep 26 2021 04:01pm
Quote (Ironboar @ Sep 26 2021 10:55pm)
^gel87
Yes, at least one in red, I mean u can get half-boxer (1 wp shown 1 wp in red), this noon I tried PB Grief + botd CB, this 1xfist 1xsword build is also pretty good,
"in red" in order to equip the item in a invisible way,
it's like something that replace the Frenzy animation with punching
u can remove the anni like I said if no unperf to try it first.


But they do become "white" again?

Can u make a movie of from when u bug, to when u fight?
I mean, all barbs that are str bugged punch in the enemies screen.

This post was edited by gel87 on Sep 26 2021 04:02pm
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Sep 26 2021 04:19pm

Of course I will make after finish my current one.

and yes I see what u mean, barb str is a normal scene, besides Frenzy boxer we testing here, all other skill basically just like what u mean, "str bugged punch" in our screen as well, nothing special or beneficial happens, so we'll only focus on Frenzy here.

This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 26 2021 04:20pm
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Sep 27 2021 12:45am
Lol, im slow, i Finally understand it xD.

Grief ettin axe + beast ettin axe
Highlord
Enigma ap (71str)
Gores
2barb/20fcr/visio/30frw/20dex/chamBer (coa need 174str)
Trang ouls
10fcr/ar/dex/life/mana/@ ring
Torch
Annie

30base + 20torch + 20annie = 70
3wc/33str bo club = 103 (can carry enigma ap)

103 + 71 = 174 (coa can be carried on switch)

Then u swap to grief beast side:
30+20+20+71 = 141
But beast also carries itself: 171...

This can be lowered to 151 by using antiperf torch and annie.

I dno.

71str eni + 30str beast + 30base = 131str.
Now i use torch with 13str and a 20/20 annie.

I put annie in cube.
I swap to the wc wep with str + hoto side.
There i throw the wc wep in cube. (maby dont need)
I swap back to grief beast side.
Str there are:
30 + 13 + 71 + 30 = 144 (wepons are red)

Maby it would be easier with a eth rare Legendary mallet + beast scepter. And go half boxer? Will still reach 3frames frenzy?

This post was edited by gel87 on Sep 27 2021 12:50am
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Sep 27 2021 01:07am


Bro I think I figured out some sort of mechanism how the boxer glitch work on some skill,
I will use Berserker as example, we know the fastest FPS limit of Berserk is 9F right? I got 6F Berserker with Boxer Glitch.

So now I think basically, with "glitch equipping" gears, the attack skill animation replaced by Native Attack (standard) animation,
And at the meanwhile, the skill FPS also replaced by Native Attack (standard) FPS BP,
check the Native Attack (standard) FPS BP, highest we can get is 6F,


In short, with boxer glitch, 9F Berserk up limit will be 6F, as long as u could get enough IAS

my Boxer Berserk Barb got enough ias (plus a Faith bow Merc) for 6FPS native attack,
now I think maybe a BVC Boxer Berserk barb is possible?

(in my recording timecode, in the same game, boxer berserker destroyed A5 towers within 0.4167 sec, normal berserk destroyed them like 0.8167 sec

This post was edited by Ironboar on Sep 27 2021 01:10am
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Sep 27 2021 01:09am
I guess it has something to do with the delay formula.

To get animation speed you use this formula:
Anim speed = [9 * 256 / delay]

Meanwhile delay:
256*(WeaponBase + 1) / [(weapon ias+wsm+100)*256/100]]

When attacking with hands the weapon base animation is: 12 (really low)
Most other fast wepons base animation on barb is 16 and higher.
BAA1HTH = 12
BAA1HT1 = 16


[256*(12+1) / [(40+0+100)*256/100]] = lower than
[256*(16+1) / [(40+0+100)*256/100]]

So it delays the animation speed less ^^

As well as what u said with the limitations based on wep type.

Btw that bolded 9 might be different, i copied some shaper stuff ^^

This post was edited by gel87 on Sep 27 2021 01:15am
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