Golemancer (blood Golem) - Topic

eric1014153

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#31

Oct 4 2018 11:02pm

Quote (Hyperdimension @ Oct 4 2018 11:01pm)

But then you wouldn't be a special snowflake

If everyone is a special snowflake, nobody is a special snowflake

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Oct 4 2018 11:28pm

Quote (eric1014153 @ Oct 4 2018 11:02pm)

If everyone is a special snowflake, nobody is a special snowflake

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#33

Oct 5 2018 12:12am

Quote (eric1014153 @ Oct 5 2018 12:58am)

I've had my share of Necro experiences with golems and they never do any damage. You have three useful golems. Clay to tank nec vs nec mirror pvp, fire golem for poison necros, and iron golem pride/insight for the summoner. The blood golem is literally trash even after the patched the Godawful pitfall it had back when it feedbacked any damage it took back to the necro himself.

Build a summoner. 40 summons doing the damage of one level 50 blood golem is what you'll get.

blood golem was the second best skill on d2 back when the game was first released. I suppose that's why they nerfed it into uselessness.

Quote (eric1014153 @ Oct 5 2018 12:40am)

Only Hard point synergy has been a thing for quite a few patches. I'm surprised by the large number of people who still do not know this. Case and point, golems do not do damage. If you want a damage dealing golem, make yourself an iron golem with a couple um runes in it. Have it do 40 CB with a lot of open wounds and this thing will do more damage to ubers than a 53 skill blood golem would do in one hour.

My point specifically was that grizzly gets soft point synergies, and I'm pretty sure valk does too.

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Oct 5 2018 12:18am

I gonna make signature quote too xd Haha that is so funny!
Heey by the way. I was using golem on necro for so long. But never discovered how make iron golem. That was so long ago...xd More than 10 years
Dont you think that clay is better over blood? He has slow down xd

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Oct 5 2018 02:37am

Quote (Worrywart @ Oct 5 2018 04:38am)

Okay I want to run some info by you, feel free to ignore anything you don't agree with.

HotO does not give heart of wolverine charges. It gives oak charges.
My testing shows that blood golems appear to have a % chance to crit. My best guess is that it is a 5% chance to crit..
I made a mockup of your necro with all golem skills maxed and level 43 blood golem. For the sake of testing I'm assuming that golems don't benefit from soft point synergies the way druid summons do. I could always be wrong, I suppose.

In a players 8 game, the golem took 40/41/44/39/38/43/40 hits to kill zombies in the blood moor

1626 average damage with level 17 might/level 9 fanatacism/maxed fire golem/level 5 heart of wolverine from wisp
That means for your golem to kill hell baal in a players 1 game it will take him 298 hits on average when you factor in the -100% dr from amplify damage, his 5% crit chance and baal's 55% chance to block
However, that assumes that he NEVER MISSES, you have a way to prevent baal from healing and ignores the glaring fact that your golem will spend most of that time slowed from baal's spells.

If you're talking about just letting the golem+merc kill things then you're talking about 30+ minutes per baal run with perfect gear

I was wrong with Heart of Wolverine from HoTo, I was looking to that ring, Wisp Projector, which i should add to my gear list for that lvl 5 of Heart of Wolverine (also that 10-20% Lightning Absorb is awesome). I think that all Golems has that 5% Chance for Critical Hit. I want to end the game in Player 1 setting, because this is the right and proper mode to do it (also without Ladder rw/ extanded stash etc.). In a player 1 game, i think that in about half of hits those zombies will be killed by my Golem, which is enough for me, because even when using another real tanky Golem, the necro (even pure Golemmeleemancer) has a merc and even a Bear, some Ravens etc. to kill things. Also, even if a Golemancer uses a Fire or Iron Golem, he will still use Clay Golem for Bosses, so i will use it too.
Thank you very much for your time and in general for your entire contribution on D2JSP forum :thumbsup:

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#36

Oct 5 2018 02:46am

Quote (eric1014153 @ Oct 5 2018 06:53am)

These are just poor attempts at making a second mercenary with a level 90+ character. I'm not sure why you're trying something that wasn't meant to be.

Why not just play Sorceress over and over and over again, to beat the game in 3 hours or so? And then what? The diversity is the mother of enjoyment. So, instead of using the old good Golem guy, Iron Golem, I want to try always new things in the limits given by the creators of this game, for SP (without Ladder rw etc.), so with my next Necro I will give it a try.

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Oct 5 2018 03:01am

Quote (patricia1997 @ Oct 5 2018 08:18am)

Any other Golem is better over Blood Golem, but I want to try new paths while playing this game. So, I want to make a Golemmeleemancer, or a Necromancer who does not use Poison Nova, Bone Spear or Skeletons/ Mages, but only Golems and also some summons by using some rw items, like Beast. Beast gives +3 to both Lycanthropy/ Werebear, so this is much useful, by giving 105% to Life, 37% Defense, 71% Damage boosts to Necromancer, who is also benefited by Auras/ Heart of Wolverine/ Amplify Damage. Next comes the Damage of Bear, and also that of Ravens (Hoto gives lvl 14 Raven). So, merc will be the biggest killer, but also helped by 4 weaker killers: Necromancer himself, Grizzly Bear, Blood Golem and Raven team.

This post was edited by GodlyMod on Oct 5 2018 03:07am

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#38

Oct 5 2018 05:15am

Quote (Hyperdimension @ 5 Oct 2018 07:01)

But then you wouldn't be a special snowflake

What's the point of useless posts like this?

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