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Aug 20 2015 02:25pm
it's easy, both death setups are bad

this
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Jewelers Dusk shroud of whale - 120 ed, 45 ias, Ber'd, 96 hp
35/15 verdungos
BK/wisp projector/dwarf star depending on needs
perf draculs
gores

is bad because soe>dungo, loh>draculs, rare leech ring > unique

and this
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Armor: Fortitude in elite armor base (dusk and ap most ideal!) (300% enhanced damage, resist, life and decent defense)
gloves: Immortal King's Forge War Gauntlets
Belt: Nosfaratu's Coil (non europe) or Siggards Stealth (europe) (ias, life steal, strenght)
Ring 2: Rare with ar, ml, res and stats
Boots: Immortal King Pillar

is bad because Loh + gores > ik, regardless of your realm (going from 5/5/5/5/9 zeal to 5/5/5/5/8 is a 3.5% difference, this is not worth losing 350ed 15ds and 15cb)

anyways grief>
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Aug 20 2015 02:31pm
Quote (lilith0 @ Aug 20 2015 04:25pm)
it's easy, both death setups are bad

this

is bad because soe>dungo, loh>draculs, rare leech ring > unique

and this

is bad because Loh + gores > ik, regardless of your realm (going from 5/5/5/5/9 zeal to 5/5/5/5/8 is a 3.5% difference, this is not worth losing 350ed 15ds and 15cb)

anyways grief>


youre wrong.
i kill anything in full game extremely fast without Loh, and the life tap is invaluable.
I dont need the life leech from soe with life tap going off so frequently with a 4 frame zeal. and the leech from my BK sustains me easily until i get a proc
Again, i dont need leech, and i switch my rings around depending on what absorbs i need
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Aug 20 2015 02:33pm
Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 20 2015 04:31pm)
youre wrong.
i kill anything in full game extremely fast without Loh, and the life tap is invaluable.
I dont need the life leech from soe with life tap going off so frequently with a 4 frame zeal. and the leech from my BK sustains me easily until i get a proc
Again, i dont need leech, and i switch my rings around depending on what absorbs i need


the 10 leech alone on the draculs i meant(not bk, typo)without tap going off is plenty. with a 4 frame zeal doing 16k physical damage 5 times a second i am quite fine.
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Aug 20 2015 03:11pm
Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 20 2015 10:33pm)
the 10 leech alone on the draculs i meant(not bk, typo)without tap going off is plenty. with a 4 frame zeal doing 16k physical damage 5 times a second i am quite fine.


u could still change gloves so u only need 2 40/15 or 15/15 (imo max/ar/life charms > resis) in armor and u can ad like 30/9/9/10resis in armor too.

the differnce between build is kinda random anyway and i guess we can say many builds are possible. (500 dmg differnce often doesnt matter anyway for example)
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Aug 20 2015 03:19pm
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u could still change gloves so u only need 2 40/15 or 15/15 (imo max/ar/life charms > resis) in armor and u can ad like 30/9/9/10resis in armor too.

the differnce between build is kinda random anyway and i guess we can say many builds are possible. (500 dmg differnce often doesnt matter anyway for example)


sure you can swap dracs for something else but i feel dracs are an incredible glove with too many benefits. 10 LL, 15 stats, and life tap
and if you have glove with 20 ias you still need 20 more from armor anyway and will have to use 2 ias jewels still
sure being able to use a fort would be great but i dont feel like sacrificing 50 cb, 45-50 ds, and etheral to use some different weapon that has ias on it and theres nowhere else to get ias from if you are using dream hat and shield.
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Aug 20 2015 03:56pm
Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 20 2015 09:31pm)
i kill anything in full game extremely fast without Loh

faster is better

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 20 2015 09:31pm)
life tap is invaluable.

dracs -> you don't die
loh -> you still don't die, and kill stuff faster

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 20 2015 09:31pm)
I dont need the life leech from soe with life tap going off so frequently with a 4 frame zeal.

soe gives 13mdr which is much better than 40vita.
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Aug 20 2015 03:59pm
Quote (lilith0 @ Aug 21 2015 01:56am)
faster is better


dracs -> you don't die
loh -> you still don't die, and kill stuff faster


soe gives 13mdr which is much better than 40vita.

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Aug 20 2015 04:00pm
Quote (Marieusz @ Aug 20 2015 10:59pm)
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he meant a mediocre roll:P
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Aug 20 2015 04:01pm
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he meant a mediocre roll:P


:rofl:
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Aug 20 2015 04:02pm
for some reasons i always think soe has 13mdr, i think it's because of viper

This post was edited by lilith0 on Aug 20 2015 04:04pm
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