Dude trolling is awesome



This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Apr 3 2012 08:37am

gmb if eu realm, diamond if all other realms.

I've shown that faith GMB + 160/60 has the potential for more DPS than faith shadow/diamond + fort. I assumed enough dexterity for max block at 99. Any amount more would favor the GMB while any amount less (if you stop at a lower level) favors faith shadow/diamond.

To make things clearer:
-There's a slight life gain from using a 160/60 +100 life with BO
-Replacement jewels in the diadem
-I've adjusted stats and charms accordingly.

If you don't believe me you can do the calculations yourself or we can come to some other agreement.

Remember that I've done these calculations based on a ladder amazon. In non-ladder, the use of 5% FRW charms can allow for greater damage for GMB + 160/60 with equal life (of course, you may want to simply keep the extra life which would be the same for both builds).

The final, and in my opinion, most convincing fact is that the use of 08 highlords can push the DPS on faith GMB + 160/60 significantly higher.

I mentioned that faith GMB + 160/60 is more versatile because you could, for example, switch out the diadem for a .08 gaze in a ZvZ with greater efficiency.
There are additional issues such as hitting the last BP for LF/LB which is not possible while wielding faith diamond/shadow unless your javs have 20%+ ias. In some situations, the +30 frw from titans can a great addition. Or you may want to use a certain set of javelins which don't have the required IAS but great damage. In certain match-ups you're able to switch to 7 FPA fort build which will grant you a lot of damage. These things are less concrete and I could certainly imagine ways to argue against them.

Things to consider for a faith diamond + fort build include chilling armor, life rep, damage reduction, and +max LR.

What the fuck is wrong with you?
Once again, read this and pay attention this time:





And it's starting to look like you haven't even read my guide
You're talking about ZvZ and shit with 60/160 and .08 Gaze
If you had read my guide at all, you'd see that that is definately a suggested gear setup
You're starting to argue things that my guide already agrees on ^^
And there are other things you're bringing up that just don't make sense at all
You clearly are not a PvPer, you're basing all of this on some assumption you're drawing by figuring all of this in your head
Let me tell you, things are much different in practice, than they are on paper

But to specifically comment further on that, you need to recognize that with a Diamond once again over GMB for ZvZ
You can get away with only putting in 2x 40/15ias jewels in the Jeweler's Of Whale and have 2x slots open, for rare jewels that add ED%/+STR/+DEX/+Life Rep
This is MUCH MORE durability in ZvZ, those +stats are adding a lot more life value and the life rep is also worth a lot more life value over the course of a long ass 10 minute match

Diamond is always a better option than GMB unless you play Europe, where bugged belt exists (which allows that 10%ias AND the damage reduction on the same belt)

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Apr 4 2012 12:54am

it seems to be good bow side, i just ran it through hero editor with 30ed/18min/10res jewels (30/18/9dex are slightly less dmging but actually exist). idk if I'd use it htough. with my build, ~365 dex bow side gmb + 160/60 would net 6% dmg bow side, but lose 22% jav side. And if I was full vita, it would only gain 3% bow side, but lose 24% jav side. I couldn't see myself maining it though, because the jav dmg drop off is too much. But I could see it in my stash as a swap.

Skibum is basically correct, though I'm fairly certain ed + min damage is bugged off-weapon.

Also, there seems to be a misunderstanding with my Fort + Faith calculations. Actually, this is at 8FPA with every item besides the bow remaining the same.

8fpa is bad
You need 7fpa to duel
Withought 7fpa you won't be able to fire/move move/fire fast enough without getting trashed by talented chainlockers
This kind of shit really matter when it comes down to a split second of (if you can fire before an assassin can mindblast you)

And you still seem to be missing the entire point of what GMB is doing to nerf *the build as a whole*
Once again, this isn't about which bow is better
It's about which bow is better for the build *as a whole*

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Apr 5 2012 10:27am

it is bugged, i was hoping no one would catch on though lol. I remembered after it was too late to edit. I did run it again though, with 30/9/9/10 jewels and basically..ur losing about 20 avg dmg with vita build and gaining about 100 with glass build. still losing over 500 dmg jav side though for that extra frame though.




that's pretty true, idk how u can duel @ 8fpa.