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Nov 17 2011 04:33pm
Quote (Lightman @ Nov 17 2011 06:21pm)
i could care less for the range.

lets talk about just 1 mob. so range won't be an issue.

so what if TM doesn't hit (doesn't actually have, to be more accurate) the last ww fpa? even with that "slower" weapon it still 1 hit ko's everything in the game. so why not get more leech? it's a titan barb, and in hardcore.

pfft. in everything regarding hc i've analyzed the crap out of sarah's comments, and found little things to argue over. when it comes down to hc, she knows her field better than anyone. even me.


I don't need you to elaborate zappy's comments because I know what she is talking about. All I was doing was sharing what I had to say and what I think would be best myself. Now I never claimed I know what is best I was just sharing what would work best for me. So why do I have to be like everybody else on this forum?

Another thing look at the bold. Looks like we all know somebody who claims how much he knows. Please its not going to do you any better posting stupid bs like that because we are all wrong at times. Keep your comments so they make sense.
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Nov 17 2011 04:42pm
Quote (Lightman @ Nov 17 2011 10:14pm)
how about you stick to your shitty assa knowledge and keep out of barb threads, moron.
grief can be outweighed in dmg not just in ww, but in frenzy, conc and berserk, mainly using 2h death g-axe and tweaking the build around a bit.

as you can't understand the fact that the overall off ed on titan builds renders grief's further dmg output unnecessary thus making them safer wielding a 2hander botd --> ye, then i'm obviously too stupid yet you're the one who can't put 2 and 2 together.

you should'a just stayed faded, bro. your e-pride and pseudo knowledge don't cut it here anymore.



another classical answer ^_^

much expected in this forum

please tell me how this is relevant?

but u still have not answered my question..

How does a 2 hand weapon missing fastest wwbp deal more dmg overall to a mob vs a duelwielding grief with combined higher avg dmg and 95% cth each weapon baring in mind duelwielding equals 2x the hitchecks and both weapons have capabilites to hit with cb + ds ?

like i said the only logical weapons are ebotd gpa and ghost spear...

oh and btw
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Required Level: 24

Prerequisites: Bash, Double Swing, Double Throw
Details: Frenzy allows the Barbarian to strike and move much faster, with any skill. Use Frenzy to speed up, then switch to other skills for a hyperfast attack.
Frenzy barbarian in action

Frenzy requires dual weapons to instigate.
    Frenzy powers up, getting faster and faster for several hits.
    There is no visual indicator of Frenzy; no swirling lights or color changes, though swings create a sort of slashing graphic through the air.
    The Barbarian moves at a frenzied pace for 6 seconds after the last successful Frenzy hit. Land another hit with Frenzy before the 6 seconds run out, and refresh the Frenzy for another 6 seconds.
    The bonus damage from Frenzy only applies to hits using the Frenzy skill itself. The speed transfers to other skills, but not the damage bonus.
    Try Leap Attack while Frenzied for laughs.

oh i think ur a tad wrong about using eth death 2 hand with frenzy....

And regarding bezerk and conc it's common knowledge they are 1 weapon attacks so a choice between a 1 hand grief (even in a 2 hand sword) and an eth death ofc eth death decap/ g-axe will deal more dmg... u failed to bring anything new to the table except show how little you really know...

This post was edited by halo273 on Nov 17 2011 04:49pm
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Nov 18 2011 08:26am
Quote (Master_Zappy @ Nov 17 2011 12:45pm)
gface hat (cuz cb and ds)
Fort (cuz damage) or enigma (cuz tele is nice, but meh, go fort)
2h botd. GPA or ghost spear is technically the best, but mace class weps like Thundermaul provide an extra 50-60%ed, and extra damage to undead.
Gores (cuz double huge damage = rediculous )
Laying of hands - cuz huge res and 350%ed to demons is hawt
highlords - cuz deadly.
tgods - cuz soul food isnt fun.
Throw in a ravenfrost and 2nd ring of choice. (I went with a 9 min , ar stat/res rare)

on switch you'll either want mf/gf (ali's are choice) bo sticks or hoto's if tele@ enigma, or a tele staff.

standard ww barb skill selection, with a few in warcry for a 3 second stun with stuff, final points going to howl for zerk synergy and saftey.

stats = all in str, or close to it. Reqs to equip, enough life/vit for a little buffer aiming for 2500 min-3K.


okay I built this barb last night with this exact gear. I only do 12k WW, which seams to be alright, but my AR is terrible. 30% chance to hit mobs. any suggestions on how i can get this higher?
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Nov 18 2011 08:33am
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okay I built this barb last night with this exact gear. I only do 12k WW, which seams to be alright, but my AR is terrible. 30% chance to hit mobs. any suggestions on how i can get this higher?


If you're only doing 12k ww, then you probably didn't put all str like the other screenshot did. For raising your AR, switch ammy/1 ring to Angelic combo. Ar > 33% DS in pvm. You're getting 35 from helm, 10 (?) from boots, and some crit from mastery anyways, so I'd just do without Highlord's.
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Nov 18 2011 08:35am
Quote (Juicy_J @ Nov 18 2011 10:33am)
If you're only doing 12k ww, then you probably didn't put all str like the other screenshot did. For raising your AR, switch ammy/1 ring to Angelic combo. Ar > 33% DS in pvm. You're getting 35 from helm, 10 (?) from boots, and some crit from mastery anyways, so I'd just do without Highlord's.


I put ALL my points into STR. I am level 85. I have 1000 HP 1200 with BO.Should I switch to Metalgrid amy or angelic rings and amies?

also what is best way to get my dmg up around 20k? str charms? gcs?

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Nov 18 2011 09:58am
wow you actually thought i meant 2hander death for frenzy? halo, you are one retarded monkey roflz. dual death is a perfectly viable build for frenzy, and grief/death combo >>>> grief/grief for frenzy barbs, was proven many times over.
2hander glorious axe death berserk >>>>> grief zerk. deal with it. same goes for conc.

yet you sit here trying to present a case based on a weapon missing the last fpa (although dmg shows it surpasses that deficiency) and that you took the 2h death idea without interpreting the obvious fact that it doesn't go directly on frenzy barbs, rather the alternative way too obvious option of using 2 death rws.

my god, you really are a challenge for IQ test writers. keep up the good work, we're still studying the last chromosomes linking us to the apes.


the ridiculous amount of off-ed on a 2h ebotd titan barb leaves grief's overkill dmg unneeded because everything already dies in a single ww. did i say that already? oh yea, your reading skills are just boardering the analphabetic threshold.

so what do you get? a faster fpa dual grief wield that does the same job as a 2h ebotd. awesome, only that this is HC, and your nothing of an advantage leaves the barb with little %leech to deal with getting hit on a relatively low hp pool. great job, you've got more dmg that gives you absolutely nothing, and even lesser %leech to increase the chance of dying in tight situations.

get lost already, your reasoning will not challenge a 5 year old.
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Nov 18 2011 10:47am
Hey guys any suggestions to bump up my DMG for a 12k WW as titan barb? lvl 85, 450 into str, everything was put into str. should I get ar charms and combat gcs? angelics?
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Nov 18 2011 01:27pm
Quote (Lightman @ Nov 18 2011 03:58pm)
wow you actually thought i meant 2hander death for frenzy? halo, you are one retarded monkey roflz. dual death is a perfectly viable build for frenzy, and grief/death combo >>>> grief/grief for frenzy barbs, was proven many times over.
2hander glorious axe death berserk >>>>> grief zerk. deal with it. same goes for conc.

yet you sit here trying to present a case based on a weapon missing the last fpa (although dmg shows it surpasses that deficiency) and that you took the 2h death idea without interpreting the obvious fact that it doesn't go directly on frenzy barbs, rather the alternative way too obvious option of using 2 death rws.

my god, you really are a challenge for IQ test writers. keep up the good work, we're still studying the last chromosomes linking us to the apes.


the ridiculous amount of off-ed on a 2h ebotd titan barb leaves grief's overkill dmg unneeded because everything already dies in a single ww. did i say that already? oh yea, your reading skills are just boardering the analphabetic threshold.

so what do you get? a faster fpa dual grief wield that does the same job as a 2h ebotd. awesome, only that this is HC, and your nothing of an advantage leaves the barb with little %leech to deal with getting hit on a relatively low hp pool. great job, you've got more dmg that gives you absolutely nothing, and even lesser %leech to increase the chance of dying in tight situations.

get lost already, your reasoning will not challenge a 5 year old.



again wots ur point?

yeah duel death on frenzy why would i not want to hit frenzy bp... 16frame attack speed? I dont know if u dont understand physics but slower frames generally mean less dmg over a longer period of time esp vs mobs etc

ur making captain obvious statements for frenzy ppl use grief + grief or grief + eth death cs i use the latter myself on a frenzy...
and again thats rubbish you leech perfectly fine with a duel grief setup esp vs avg mob u hit 95% of the time???

+ why on earth would u use a ba in pvm? the constant repair cost is not worth it seen how the 400+ dmg adds dirrectly to max and minimum you would just use a pb and on the plus side u dont have to worry about ias since is a fast base weapon...

again where are you going with this?

Like i said if a 2 hander is a must why not use eth botd wp or ghost spear? hits fastest ww bp meaning u get max hit checks and still deals huge dmg + its hc and extra range is a nice plus..

yet again another useless post proving ur just raged out cause u have been proven wrong.

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Nov 18 2011 01:43pm
Quote (halo273 @ Nov 18 2011 10:27pm)
again wots ur point? my point is dual grief on a titan barb is useless, you know nothing twit

yeah duel death on frenzy why would i not want to hit frenzy bp... you can still hit bp? lmfao, what a troll. also duel/10

ur making captain obvious statements for frenzy ppl use grief + grief or grief + eth death cs i use the latter myself on a frenzy... because obviously for a cpt. obvious like you, you can't make a distinction between 2handers and dual wield when referring to frenzy. "ololol you say 2h death on a frenzy? frenzy is dual wield only ololol you didn't know this? omg omg i'll post about it 'cause i didn't get your post but trying to pull off as an above-grade level reader
and again thats rubish you leech perfectly fine with a duel grief setup esp vs avg mob u hit 95% of the time??? perfect proof to why you're a dumbass who talks out of his ass. in hc on a titan build(especially p8), ring's leech just doesn't cut it. you need as much as you can get and grief's extra dmg doesn't do shit. the mob still dies the same way it does from ebotd.

again where are you going with this? dunno, it's like teaching a 5 months old ape to play cards, or an asian person how to drive.

Like i said if a 2 hander is a must  it's not a must, it's better, and TM is the best base for it. sure it's slower, but the off-ed makes this base output the most dmg why not use eth botd wp or ghost spear? hits fastest ww bp meaning u get max hit checks and still deals huge dmg + its hc and extra range is a nice plus.. LOL arguing about range in pvm. jesus, shut the fuck up already you moron.

yet again another useless post proving ur just raged out cause u have been proven wrong.



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stick to your pvp mages, they are much a fail as you are in this lulzy thread.
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