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Aug 1 2011 08:56am
why not

white
berber coa
2/20 ammy
arach
raven
mages
fcr ring

vs windys?
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Aug 1 2011 09:07am
Quote (GoHuskers @ Aug 1 2011 09:56am)
why not

white
berber coa
2/20 ammy
arach
raven
mages
fcr ring

vs windys?


cause you don't hit 6 k Dmg
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Aug 1 2011 09:17am
Quote (Egardner @ 1 Aug 2011 18:07)
cause you don't hit 6 k Dmg


Pretty round numbers
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Aug 1 2011 09:34am
Quote (Egardner @ 1 Aug 2011 17:31)
You clearly missed it. CNBF is hugely important.


cham is a shitty way to get it, you lack the cold absorb of raven vs hurricane and you lose the dr. if you're worried about damage being lower with a raven than bk then use 3 pb circ and dungos



This post was edited by tudey on Aug 1 2011 09:35am
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Quote (tudey @ Aug 1 2011 10:34am)
cham is a shitty way to get it, you lack the cold absorb of raven vs hurricane and you lose the dr. if you're worried about damage being lower with a raven than bk then use 3 pb circ and dungos


I appreciate your input but I've literally tryed every style of necro build over the past 4 years and find that what I haveup there works best for me and most of the people I know who use it have been quite good with my guide.

I know you want to say something about everything I say as per you have literally only harped on my nvd build which i am one of the better NvD's left. You are entitledto your opinions but they are tired in this thread. Go tell people how to make psn javas or something.
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Quote (Egardner @ 1 Aug 2011 18:55)
I appreciate your input but I've literally tryed every style of necro build over the past 4 years and find that what I haveup there works best for me and most of the people I know who use it have been quite good with my guide.

I know you want to say something about everything I say as per you have literally only harped on my nvd build which i am one of the better NvD's left. You are entitledto your opinions but they are tired in this thread. Go tell people how to make psn javas or something.


maybe it works but circ+dungo+raven setup is better
but hey man, if you say its the best then it must be true, you are one of the better NvD's left afterall. player skill is totally an awesome argument to back up a setup in a guide!!
i could start bragging about my skill too but its totally irrelevant when considering setups

and hey, nice flame with that poison java. that certainly hit the soft spot!

This post was edited by tudey on Aug 1 2011 10:08am
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Quote (tudey @ Aug 1 2011 11:07am)
maybe it works but circ+dungo+raven setup is better
but hey man, if you say its the best then it must be true, you are one of the better NvD's left afterall. player skill is totally an awesome argument to back up a setup in a guide!!
i could start bragging about my skill too but its totally irrelevant when considering setups

and hey, nice flame with that poison java. that certainly hit the soft spot!


Just stating that I'm burnt out on your opinions as they are undermining me 100% on stuff like that. Like I havent used a Coa with ber ber and had a raven on.

I agree it's an effective build but for how I duel the things I use work better for me.
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Aug 13 2011 05:11pm
Bamp
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Quote (Dawa @ Jul 31 2011 01:30am)
Honestly, I hate guides that pretty much require you to change vs any type of character...
there is a difference between putting on 1-2 different pieces of gear as opposed to putting on multiple... What happened to the good ol' days of general all around builds that require very few switchups?
Other than that little rant though...
Very informative guide...
/edit It does need to be cleaned up a bit as the black on white with the 12 pt font and single spaced gets to you after a long while...

Unfortunately, changing gear setups to tweak vs. specific opponents is essential if you want to beat opponents who are tweaking setups against you
It's a good thing this guide explains it well



Quote (Juicy_J @ Jul 31 2011 02:18am)
I can sort of agree with this. However, in pubs the Necromancer is one character that definitely doesn't have to switch a ton of setups. I remember pubbing with the same Hoto/Bfists/Coa/FCR Ammy/FCR Rings/Aldurs/Nigma/Spirit/Arach build all the time. Occasionally I used White over Hoto and Trangs over Bfists when I didn't need all the res. But that setup granted me tons of stacked res, DR, life, and 5.3k damage which isn't bad by any stretch. In a 1v1 gm match though, I don't see why you wouldn't optimize your gear based on the opponent.

This isn't a guide to *screwing around in public games*
It's a guide to winning FG Wagers and climbing PvP Ladders
Shit gets real when FG or a #1 rank on a ladder is on the line
One sole setup on your character will not be sufficient in higher tier more competative PvP
Every serious player has a stash full of tweaks, get used to it if you want to compete




Quote (tudey @ Jul 31 2011 06:51am)
somewhat flawed strategies

Erik is the only person I've ever met that can consistantly beat my amazon with a necromancer, using only GM tactics
I suggest you listen to his strategies




Quote (Inzaned @ Jul 31 2011 09:57am)
what a load of crap





Quote (MULTIQ @ Jul 31 2011 10:00am)
nice guide. but it should be much shorter
a good necro needs only this..:
125fcr 86fhr 50dr
and much life and dmg as possible..
the main clue is to not get hit. so necro will need massive mana.. to tele and spam ibs and spear...nn swap all this items all the time cuz. if good. you will almost never get hit.

Once again:
This isn't a guide to *screwing around in public games*
It's a guide to winning FG Wagers and climbing PvP Ladders
Shit gets real when FG or a #1 rank on a ladder is on the line
One sole setup on your character will not be sufficient in higher tier more competative PvP
Every serious player has a stash full of tweaks, get used to it if you want to compete



Great guide Erik
I'd like to see more guides like this
and less cookie cutting pub guides
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Aug 13 2011 07:13pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Aug 13 2011 07:18pm)


Great guide Erik
I'd like to see more guides like this
and less cookie cutting pub guides


Thanks a lot bro. Most peopel don't gt how serious pvp is but meh lol.

Glad you like it put some time into making this thing.

Hopefully see you around on nl sometime.
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