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Jan 2 2007 09:46pm
imho forti > coh

300ed, life, 2x res

and a setup w/s with death eth ba and phoenix pala shield 4x res is better too

nice guide tho wink.gif
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Quote (Torondhor @ Wed, Jan 3 2007, 03:46am)
imho forti > coh

300ed, life, 2x res

and a setup w/s with death eth ba and phoenix pala shield 4x res is better too

nice guide tho wink.gif


grief>death by far.
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Quote (Torondhor @ Wed, Jan 3 2007, 03:46am)
imho forti > coh

300ed, life, 2x res

and a setup w/s with death eth ba and phoenix pala shield 4x res is better too

nice guide tho wink.gif


grief>death by far.

because?

for this guide it's bullshit or do you wanna tell me that you kill a pubby with 1 hit with grief? Have you even read the guide?
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agreed.
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Quote (derfana @ Wed, Jan 3 2007, 10:44am)
Quote (GIFF @ Wed, 3 Jan 2007, 11:21)
Quote (Torondhor @ Wed, Jan 3 2007, 03:46am)
imho forti > coh

300ed, life, 2x res

and a setup w/s with death eth ba and phoenix pala shield 4x res is better too

nice guide tho wink.gif


grief>death by far.

because?

for this guide it's bullshit or do you wanna tell me that you kill a pubby with 1 hit with grief? Have you even read the guide?


are you stupid? read the post i quoted again and tell me if you seriously think that death ba is better than grief in any situation whatsoever. thought so, now get lost random.
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what if i went shield/weapon build.. whats best 4 charger
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Quote (Reveng3 @ Wed, Jan 3 2007, 05:22pm)
what if i went shield/weapon build.. whats best 4 charger


grief no competition. anyone claming otherwise is a complete moron. switch shields between phoenix/exile/zaka depending on who you duel.
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what if i went shield/weapon build.. whats best 4 charger


grief no competition. anyone claming otherwise is a complete moron. switch shields between phoenix/exile/zaka depending on who you duel.


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i havent used a grief on my charger b/c im a 2hand build but grief smiters that switch to charge on me are pretty effective so i'd think it'd be a great axe for a shield/axe build. if i were to go shield/axe, id probably go res phoenix/grief... i might get around to making one someday but right now im focused on my liberator to counter barbs as well.

as i said ive been messing around with liberator builds and i found that you can substitute a bit more of the gear than i had originally thought. for those of you who want more fhr vs trappers / other chars, this setup is nice, if not the best:

15dr 30 res coa w/ 15res/-15req x2
whatever axe/shield or 2hand axe you prefer
btals w/ a ber
bloodfist
raven x2 or raven/wisp if you have godleh charms
24fhr +20-30str +life +res belt (if you get a good one, youll almost = dungos life, 40vita dungo = 120 life, and you'll gain res/fhr in the process... basically dungos isnt needed cuz 15dr coa + 33dr btal = 48)
gores
ar lifers, anni, torch.

if you're going to go liberator, you want 75fcr so just substitute bloodfist for trangs, 2 fcr high ar +str/dex rings, and a 35fcr sacred targe on switch and use 6bo cta to cast hammers. ill let you know how effective it is when i get it up and running... just working on getting a godly belt now and a bunch of hel's to reroll my sacred targe.
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Jan 3 2007 04:28pm
so i made this exact build lol smile.gif
extreamly tough to hit max blockers..
and zons...
anything that ww's..
a smiters charge>u when they have max block. some when dont..
why so hard to hit.. im thinking edc and pheonix is much better for this..
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