a little bit could be altered i think...

first off, it may be bm... but summoners can be fun pvp, have a bramble in stash
secondly, firegolem really does aid in pvp and its a hassel sometimes to cast iron golem if you or it dies... one point is very much worth it imo

just some thoughts

Howdy sir!

Yeah I can't claim to have any real experience with PvP. Always stuck to PvM which is why I focused this guide on that

I figure I'll leave the PvP aspects to those more experienced than I! But I've made tons of these bad boys in PvM lol.

it would really still be a pvm char... and these hybrids are one of the more fun pvms to own imo (outside of a solid doom MA assassin), but a minor tweak or 2 and ur ready to bm pubs

honestly just takes 1 skill point into fire golem and a bramble in stash for ur merc and you've got it

This is a good point. Being a hybrid, you also get a decently strong meat shield, so max block with lowish DR% should be sufficient to survive.

You could have mentioned the fhr breakpoints, and possibly Stormshield as a very safe shield alternative. Other than that, the guide gives a good overview of the build.

Added to the sticky, thanks for your contribution.

Thanks sir!

True that. I realized I didn't include any fhr breakpoint goal after I posted and I suppose the lack of fhr info stems from my personal play style. I find these guys to be so safe that I guess I don't even consider fhr when making these. I guess I prefer to balance and maximize other aspects of the character and don't factor in fhr when it comes to gear/charm selection. Come to think of it I run mine with 0 fhr lol.

I messed around with Stormshield because I kind of wanted to want it but I couldn't really justify using it. I played pretty agressive and the homunculus did fine in keeping me alive and providing excellent bufs/mods. I couldn't see myself including it as much as I wanted to

I suppose no fhr and very little dr (when looking at my preferred enigma set up) sounds kind of silly....but it works! At least for PvM. I haven't lost one of these on HC since I died at Pindle to a horrendous lag spike a few years back. Huzzah!

Thank you for the comment and feedback. Much appreciated. This topic kind of got off track for a few pages lol.

storm shield is a little bit overkill, with tele and skeles, your almost never getting hit with anything physical... honestly, max block and DR both aren't really relevant, worst of pvm comes from elemental and magic damage

Agreed

Cool.

This post was edited by ggnorekthx on Mar 31 2011 09:51am

I like how you write. Your guide is well written and informative. I counts alot in this troll hole. Here is the things I disagree with you on ;P
- don't quote me on this but it might be better to invest skill points in skeleton mastery rather than skeleton warrior.. you get higher damage and more defense/life but fewer skeletons I think..
- you will have so low life with block that it is not really worth it. I have tried this and this is how I feel about it rather than what logic should tell me. feeling and experience can be closer to reality sometimes

that's about it really.

I tried to make a hybrid with good skeleton damage and mana replenish.. had 6k poison damage and quite good zoo but it didn't work as good as I expected. monsters didn't die of just one nova..

Hey there. Thanks for the kind words and the comments as well! I'll offer my 2 cents

As far as the skeleton split, unless things have changed, 20RS/1SM tends to be the preferred and deals more DPS and results in more summons. Basically you get tankier, but fewer skeletons, if you go 20SM/1RS (like you said)...and More fragile skellies, but more of them, thus dealing more damage if you go the 20RS/1M route. I also like 20RS/1SM because it provides more meat shields, which is what my skellies are for me since the major killing is done by myself and my merc.

In regards to block I guess it's because I have always played HC but having max block eases my mind, and it's nice because homunculus is such a suitable shield to achieve that with. I do agree that life will be fairly low, but at the same time with all the skellies, the teleporting, the bone armor and the ranged attack of nova I never found it to be a major issue. BUT I was glad to have MB when I did happen to get hit and that block sound came through. Plus Necros get the short end of the stick when it comes to life, only gaining 2 points of health per stat point. So you'll have more life if you go full vita, but it won't be a tremendous amount, and by that logic you don't lose TOO much by going max block. PnB Lifers are certainly preferred though to get the life up. My last necro this ladder had MB and 2506 life.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=50449047&f=98

There's always variations of course and tweaks to be made to suit personal tastes! After playing these for a few years and making tons of 'em I just wanted to share my preferred set up

I think people will be pleased if they try it out.

Again, thank you for the comments and the discussion!

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Yeah these guys are very particular about gear. You have to hit a high nova, and more importantly a high -EPR. I can definitely see how a 6k Nova could take some time :flashback to early last ladder:

Hmm, sorry about the essay

This post was edited by New002 on Mar 31 2011 12:56pm