Damm, how dare I refute the opinion of the hardcore pubbers xDDDDD

By the way moving towards the build itself, this is complete garbage.....

You have like 60% of the damage of a pure hdin by not maxing conc with 75 fcr at best, and what do you gain for it - some shitty zeal attack ( and no CtC life tap ) that you dont even use for bosses xD

Tell me how in any way shape or form this beats a pure hdin that with 1 point smite and dracs and lw could prob beat ubers

this is objectively the best guide on jsp

thanks for your ontopic opinion.

Lw does not kill as fast as astrons in ubers. Since your a new member to jsp, you might have missed this calculation pages which shows the proof of my statement.
Here's your spoon feeding ->

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48695603&f=161

This pally does baal runs faster then a pure hammer because ; A, its much faster on wave 2, and B , it takes a fraction of the time to kill baal vs you using hammers the whole time.

Or you can waste time, swap half your shit around to get your 1 point smite setup (which is a pain in the ass)


Since you also seem to have difficulty with retaining what you just read, you'll see in the guide I also stated that when doing ubers specifically, you'd swap trangs for dracs providing "tap"



a 125fcr hammer casts hammers @ 9fpa
Smite is 6fpa and zeal is @ 4fpa

So if your in a tight spot, or just have 1-2 monsters to kill, its faster to kill it with zeal then casting a hammer.

It's also a more "fun" character to play because your both a caster and a melee char.

What looks like "lowish melee damage" is mostly lcs issue with it not reflecting the +~85 damage mode, which account for 1/3 more zeal damage and almost twice the listed smite damage.

The main appeal of this build is an all in 1 setup that melee's and cast with good balance between them Sure it losses some damage to either pure builds of the latter, but not much , both sides are still OP in pvm for sure.







totally not, but its a fun play regardless.







Its looking that way, he's entitled to his opinion though, and if he doesnt like it, that's kewl with me. I wish he'd list out more facts and figures instead of just knee jerk responses, but that's typical of jsp.


There's few characters that are as boring to play as a pure hammerdin , this lets you have the utility of a hammer with the option to do more then just have one ability.


This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Apr 2 2011 01:44pm

to put it differently, I have never seen a hdin/zealer and yet this guide makes it seem as if it was a cookie cutter build

This post was edited by ghostfaic on Apr 2 2011 01:44pm

If I were playing right now I would make this. Can't go wrong with a Sara build. Always unique and always fun.

Ok I'll try and list things out for you then.....


"This pally does baal runs faster then a pure hammer because ; A, its much faster on wave 2, and B , it takes a fraction of the time to kill baal vs you using hammers the whole time."

You have 75 fcr at best, so I would probably tele faster to get to the run in the first place. Maybe you do wave 2 faster, but I'll do every other wave ALOT faster with like 1.5x your hammer damage and higher fcr.

Also, I'm no " pvm specialist " but iirc crushing blow does the same damage regardless of the amount of players in the game, so in an 8 person game perhaps the crushing blow with smite not be as good.

"Since you also seem to have difficulty with retaining what you just read, you'll see in the guide I also stated that when doing ubers specifically, you'd swap trangs for dracs providing "tap" "

I skimmed through the guide again and found
"I feel gores are best on this char for general pvm as with trang gloves on it provides your source of OW. In ubers, you'd have dracs for this need, so if you wanted to hassle with swapping, Goblin toes are better here. Not worth it imo when you have 73% cb already." - but dracs arent listed as possible gloves in the main section whereas other uber" choices are..

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What looks like "lowish melee damage" is mostly lcs issue with it not reflecting the +~85 damage mode, which account for 1/3 more zeal damage and almost twice the listed smite damage.
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Lol, im not retarded, the hdden 85 dmg is something basically everyone knows and has probably taken into account when saying that the damage is low....

"a 125fcr hammer casts hammers @ 9fpa,Smite is 6fpa and zeal is @ 4fpa"

More basics, but hows this for you, a hammer is 15k+ dmg, your zeal is like 6k average damage ( ofc this doesnt apply to your hammerdin xD )

I'm all for originality but this seems like originality for well.. the sake of being original

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Apr 2 2011 02:11pm