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Dec 23 2010 11:19am
Alright.
From what I've gathered, there are 5 pin-items which will not be replaced under any circumstance.

HotO (40% FCR)
Arachnid's Mesh (20% FCR)
Griffon's Eye (25% FCR)
Magefist/Trang-Oul (20% FCR)
Stormshield

This leaves the armor, rings, boots and amulet sections open for discussion.
I am still missing 12% FCR (105% currently) for the 117% BP.

On the continuing chapter:
-Enigma vs CoH vs Viper
-FCR/Strength rings vs Stones of Jordan (Or a mixture)
-2/15% FCR amulet vs Mara's Kaleidoscope.
-Aldur's Advance vs Waterwalk

And: what can be added to achieve 150%+ MF, including Gheed's fortune and other small charms?
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Dec 23 2010 11:41am
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Alright.
From what I've gathered, there are 5 pin-items which will not be replaced under any circumstance.

HotO (40% FCR)
Arachnid's Mesh (20% FCR)
Griffon's Eye (25% FCR)
Magefist/Trang-Oul (20% FCR)
Stormshield

This leaves the armor, rings, boots and amulet sections open for discussion.
I am still missing 12% FCR (105% currently) for the 117% BP.

On the continuing chapter:
-Enigma vs CoH vs Viper
-FCR/Strength rings vs Stones of Jordan (Or a mixture)
-2/15% FCR amulet vs Mara's Kaleidoscope.
-Aldur's Advance vs Waterwalk

And: what can be added to achieve 150%+ MF, including Gheed's fortune and other small charms?


viper + tgods? or just coh in my opinion for easy res. if you have no res problems, enigma is obviously next in line.
soj soj is best i guess. or dwarf dwarf (since the mdr or pdr or whichever)
maras is much cheaper and gives res@ without crazy pricing
i prefer aldurs but if your fire res is okay, waterwalks give more life

ways to get more mf...
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Dec 23 2010 11:48am
Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Dec 23 2010 08:41pm)
viper + tgods? or just coh in my opinion for easy res. if you have no res problems, enigma is obviously next in line.
soj soj is best i guess. or dwarf dwarf (since the mdr or pdr or whichever)
maras is much cheaper and gives res@ without crazy pricing
i prefer aldurs but if your fire res is okay, waterwalks give more life

ways to get more mf...


Let's not forget Waterwalk helps with MB (15 Dexterity). It seems like the ideal way to go about things.
Strength is a bit of a problem, so I have been thinking CoH + FCR Strength ring to ease the pain of adding so much to Strength. SoJ as 2nd ring.
With that said, I am left with 115% FCR (2% short).

That will force amulet to be that of FCR basis.
Either that, or having a second FCR ring instead of SoJ, and having Mara's Kaleidoscope.

This post was edited by Synonym on Dec 23 2010 11:50am
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Dec 23 2010 12:15pm
My little add:
hoto
viper
whisthans
shako
arach
magefist
maras
wisp
fcr ring
hotspurs

this is for survival, pressing str/dex as low as possible so you can boost you life globe up. IMO the most dangerous are amp/physical damage extra strong/fast mobs. Dr doesn't help since -90 pdr or -50 meh, I'd rather take that ~70 dex and ~ 100 str pumping life up so you get a chance to escape after that 1 hit almost ko

hots/wisp for the deadliest elemental attacks

shako is great btw.. 150 life +6% life it's equal to a lot of stats on a sorc, I take that ^^


For mf I don't know..

This post was edited by lifo2 on Dec 23 2010 12:19pm
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Dec 23 2010 12:26pm
Quote (lifo2 @ Dec 23 2010 09:15pm)
My little add:
hoto
viper
whisthans
shako
arach
magefist
maras
wisp
fcr ring
hotspurs

this is for survival, pressing str/dex as low as possible so you can boost you life globe up. IMO the most dangerous are amp/physical damage extra strong/fast mobs. Dr doesn't help since -90 pdr or -50 meh, I'd rather take that ~70 dex and ~ 100 str pumping life up so you get a chance to escape after that 1 hit almost ko

hots/wisp for the deadliest elemental attacks

shako is great btw.. 150 life +6% life it's equal to a lot of stats on a sorc, I take that ^^


For mf I don't know..


This is where we dispute, because I don't believe receiving extra 40% damage from a physical attack (-90 PDR vs -50 as you said) can be saved from having even 170 extra vitality points, especially when coming from multiple monsters hitting simultaneously.

As far as DPS goes, I don't see how Griffon's Eye can be outperformed.
Thank you for your input, nonetheless.

This post was edited by Synonym on Dec 23 2010 12:29pm
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Dec 23 2010 01:26pm
Syno why u dnt need try shadowdancers boots... eni if u must ss shield.... 25dex 30fhr!!!(30fhr it is 140life minimum).... btw i like ur topic no maras try syno 2 sorc 1x fcr amu for 117bp (u can 2x bk for more dmg and more like ) other items is very ok hoto eni trangs griff

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Quote (angeloamc @ Dec 23 2010 10:26pm)
Syno  why u dnt need try  shadowdancers boots... eni    if u must ss shield....    25dex  30fhr!!!(30fhr it is 140life minimum)....  btw i like ur topic


Because the minimum requirement for Sdancers is well above that of SS (167 IIRC)
It will further bring my life down.

So, my last choices have been-

HotO
Arachnid's Mesh
Griffon's Eye
Magefist/Trang-Oul
Stormshield
Mara's Kaleidoscope
War Traveler
2* FCR/Strength rings
CoH


I chose WT over WW because in terms of stat investment, 10 STR compared to 15 DEX seemed rather quaint to weigh. It is true that I've lost 45 HP (10 VIT vs 65 HP), but I have gained 50% MF.

I've added Ist rune to Griffon's Eye. True, not an RBF, but I felt MF was completely neglected here.
I've ended up with CoH (25), Griffon (25), WT (50), Gheed's Fortune (40) = 140% MF. A few MF charms could be added along the way.

I've also socketed Storm with Eld rune, saving me 20 Dexterity points.

More goals achieved:
117% FCR
MB
43% DR
5-21k without any skillers / 5-29k with 4 skillers.

My only downfall is 1,637 HP after BO.
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Dec 23 2010 01:41pm
stormsbield pahed 30 str easy for shadowdancers.... i dnt undersand u :) why no n1 boots for survibality:) u can storm soc ofc -15req 9str juwel etc...
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Dec 23 2010 01:42pm
stormshield payed 30 str easy for shadowdancers.... i dnt undersand u :) why no n1 boots for survibality:) u can storm soc ofc -15req 9str juwel etc...
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Dec 23 2010 01:44pm
Quote (angeloamc @ Dec 23 2010 10:41pm)
stormsbield pahed 30 str  easy for shadowdancers....  i dnt undersand u :) why no n1 boots for survibality:)  u can storm soc ofc -15req 9str juwel etc...


Oh, true. I guess I've forgotten about that when trying to reach SS req without caring for anymore +Str from that point.

However, +25Dex cannot be matched vs 15Dex/65HP, as was aforementioned.
There is also a lack of MF or resistance, hence the only 3 competent boots are WT, WW and AA.
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