yea and its a world of difference with bo
and chances are he was probably playing kinda careless, tanking too much or something

i dont think no, but maybe i am wrong duno

i also dueled kam on d2pk, i dont know who won more and i dont remember if he used bo or not but it was pretty close

you will maybe tell me than kam is not rly a bowa player except in assa vs bowa, but well then jsv must be the only real bowa on europe except lamer maybe xD

This post was edited by harg on Dec 6 2010 02:06pm

Guys we all know about hdin vs bowa pros and v
Cons.... But this is a guide topic not a zvh discussion. Try to stay in topic... I much rather read suggestions or constructive criticism about my build. Or charts comparing to other builds etc....
Iso concrete info not duel discussion based on player habilities and pvp skill

but discussion about player habitilies and pvp skill are so much exciting...^^

well np, imo classic gmb build with bb and 120 45 30 tiara are better, since you get rly more max dmg

Thanks for your input so your zon is all dmg right? No res low life 35% dr only. Don't forge that using gmb you
Need 95 ias forcing you to drop dungos ( 15%dr 40% vit and 13 rep) and also you have to use 120-45 helm instead of rare diadem that will cost you 2zon skills (big for passives), and in my case 17+ dex | 30+ life and 20all res also forcing you to need more res scs instead of 32020s or 5/3/20s

in eu i can use bb so i reach 50 dr even with gmb

but you can too use storm ber to reach 43 dr with nosfe belt

and even if i have to put more life / res scs in invent i will still get more dmg than you

This post was edited by harg on Dec 6 2010 02:41pm

its best with bb for sure but other realms are forced to use nos with it
and this guy isnt using psn sc, gmb build I got at one east priv realm has 1.2-5k without psn sc with like 1.9k life while this has 1.7-3.3, so its like 1/5 more damage with gmb build, but you get 50 dr instead of 35 (or 43 but no strbug with ber storm) and 40 vit and 13 rep and some zon skills and possible stats from helm, if you stat more dex with this build to get same life as with gmb build then the damage difference is smaller and you get still get that extra dr and rep, this build is viable when theres no bb

oh and this guy is even using bad choice of boots, WT build would do more damage, and he's using REALLY many frw scs

E: my build was using highlords thou iirc, so its like 10% more overall damage iirc with that

This post was edited by tudey on Dec 6 2010 02:52pm

Using 5 res/5 frw scs on bowa is pointless and wasteful, instead of swapping 3/20/5's with 5/5's you can swap 3/20/20's with 20/5's.

I don't like storm ber cuz u will need more stats in str to use it.
I like 50 dr over 43dr
Also only europe has bb so wouldn't count that on my build. I also only use items that can/could spawn in the game
Bsides that max dmg is overrated I like avg dmg better counting min and max together.
That's my build. Make a zon like that and post some pictures of stats and I'll be able to compare correctly.
Without correct information I can't do anything but speculate like your doing

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