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Aug 24 2010 02:35am
Quote (SilentSpamer @ Aug 24 2010 04:10am)
9/10 ;)

I think that you should write something about casters belts ;)
I have 10fcr 10fhr 30str 59life 11mana and it allows me to put all stats into vita, reach 86fhr with 86fhr without charms (bloods, spirit) and use 2xbk (or bk/wisp, bk/raven, etc.). Very useful for vitamancer (vita from dungo isn't boable ;) ).
With wizzy there is possibility to use 10fcr amu with 40lr/cr which are cheaper.

Jewels... imho 20life/30lr/cr in wizzy are best :>
And imo 3/20/2 (or 2/20/2sox with life) are better than shako :>
2xjah -> ~200hp and you can wear bloods instead of to gloves. With caster belt with 10+fhr its much life ;)


:D Thanks, and hmm those don't sound to bad although if I had the chance I'd prefer to go with verdungo's for the rep/DR%. Although that would be a nice belt vs casters if you didn't need the fcr.

I see, well the jewels would be a nice addition to the socketing section. Actually I know a few necromancers that used jewels that gave ~35+ cold resist in wizzy, should have mentioned something like that I suppose.

Argueable I suppose for helms, everyone likes something different and that's the main point of this guide, to leave the overall gear choice to the user.

Thanks for the overall input, I'll try a setup like that if I get a chance :P

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Aug 24 2010 02:46am
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:D Thanks, and hmm those don't sound to bad although if I had the chance I'd prefer to go with verdungo's for the rep/DR%. Although that would be a nice belt vs casters if you didn't need the fcr.

I see, well the jewels would be a nice addition to the socketing section. Actually I know a few necromancers that used jewels that gave ~35+ cold resist in wizzy, should have mentioned something like that I suppose.

Argueable I suppose for helms, everyone likes something different and that's the main point of this guide, to leave the overall gear choice to the user.

Thanks for the overall input, I'll try a setup like that if I get a chance :P


why "didn't need fcr"? :huh: I reach 125 fcr with that belt. ;)
and, btw. I like wizzy socketed 20life 30lr against foh :)

Hm, this is second nec guide that I like :D
In first one was info about caster belt... But its hard to find good one. :mellow:
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Aug 24 2010 02:55am
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why "didn't need fcr"? :huh: I reach 125 fcr with that belt. ;)
and, btw. I like wizzy socketed 20life 30lr against foh :)

Hm, this is second nec guide that I like :D
In first one was info about caster belt... But its hard to find good one. :mellow:


Well I mean if you didn't need the extra 10% fcr from arach, since arach is probably the most commonly use belt vs casters(Frees up other slots) although I'm sure a good caster belt would be nice too(I'll try it if I can ever afford it o.O)

I see, well atm my necromancer is unaffected by conviction :unsure: not a bad choice overall though, mines socketed with a 7fhr/10res/-15%req jewel(The other day I decided I wanted to use as little stats as possible). Although I will end up changing the jewel later most likely, probably a jewel with res/REP.
What necromancer build do you use?

If I end up writing another revision I will include a caster belt setup :P Although for now I think 12 setups is enough, but a caster belt is worth the mention either way.

Thanks ^_^

edit: Just rechecked, my necromancer is only affected in fire/poison by conviction, light/cold is still maxed ^_^(Assuming -150 resist from conviction)

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Aug 24 2010 03:11am
Quote (Scaryghoul @ 24 Aug 2010 09:55)
Well I mean if you didn't need the extra 10% fcr from arach, since arach is probably the most commonly use belt vs casters(Frees up other slots)  although I'm sure a good caster belt would be nice too(I'll try it if I can ever afford it o.O)

I see, well atm my necromancer is unaffected by conviction :unsure: not a bad choice overall though, mines socketed with a 7fhr/10res/-15%req jewel(The other day I decided I wanted to use as little stats as possible). Although I will end up changing the jewel later most likely, probably a jewel with res/REP.
What necromancer build do you use?

If I end up writing another revision I will include a caster belt setup :P Although for now I think 12 setups is enough, but a caster belt is worth the mention either way.

Thanks ^_^


foh usually have items that lower light res and you cannot notice that in char window ;)
griffon, 25/-25 scepter, 20/-20 armor/shield...

As main setup I use hoto/wizzy, 2pb 20fcr 25life 2xjah'd circ, 2/20 or 2/10 amu, spirit, eni, 10fcr 10fhr 30str 59life 11mana, wws, bloodfists and 2xbk
I have over 4250hp and high resistances ;)
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Aug 24 2010 03:17am
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foh usually have items that lower light res and you cannot notice that in char window ;)
griffon, 25/-25 scepter, 20/-20 armor/shield...

As main setup I use hoto/wizzy, 2pb 20fcr 25life 2xjah'd circ, 2/20 or 2/10 amu, spirit, eni, 10fcr 10fhr 30str 59life 11mana, wws, bloodfists and 2xbk
I have over 4250hp and high resistances ;)


Not usually worried about foh since wall/prison usually draws the foh away from me, by the time I'm on the screen they're usually dead quickly. I guess that's why I am usually more concerned about stacking cold rather than light.

I see ^_^ Well how much mana do you have?(I usually like to keep 970+ if possible)

If I pushed my necromancers life to a normal build(Non-DR based) I'd probably have around 3.9k-4k life with my own bo. Although with my current setup things won't get much better until I get that 2/20/str/life/res amulet(Scirc).
When I get it I should hit around 3.7k life in my dr setup.(Assuming I don't do any charm upgrades to 100% perfect, which I probably won't).
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Aug 24 2010 03:32am
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Not usually worried about foh since wall/prison usually draws the foh away from me, by the time I'm on the screen they're usually dead quickly. I guess that's why I am usually more concerned about stacking cold rather than light.

I see ^_^ Well how much mana do you have?(I usually like to keep 970+ if possible)

If I pushed my necromancers life to a normal build(Non-DR based) I'd probably have around 3.9k-4k life with my own bo. Although with my current setup things won't get much better until I get that 2/20/str/life/res amulet(Scirc).
When I get it I should hit around 3.7k life in my dr setup.(Assuming I don't do any charm upgrades to 100% perfect, which I probably won't).


I prefer to drink mana potions ;) But mana is over 650.
That belt gives me a lot of life... 30str + 59life -> 119life which is boable and fhr charms aren't needed...
And I spent a lot FG for charms (9x45's, 10x20/11lr, 6x20/11cr, 4x20/11fr, perf anni and torch).

Now I'm not able to tell you how much life I have on dr setup because I'm in work :P

My mate is playing foh and he has 20 pts into prayer... He has no tele so I don't use bprison. Charge lag and that RL makes me angry :angry:
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Which realm do you play? I need NvN experience :<
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Aug 24 2010 03:38am
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I prefer to drink mana potions ;) But mana is over 650.
That belt gives me a lot of life... 30str + 59life -> 119life which is boable and fhr charms aren't needed...
And I spent a lot FG for charms (9x45's, 10x20/11lr, 6x20/11cr, 4x20/11fr, perf anni and torch).

Now I'm not able to tell you how much life I have on dr setup because I'm in work :P

My mate is playing foh and he has 20 pts into prayer... He has no tele so I don't use bprison. Charge lag and that RL makes me angry :angry:
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Which realm do you play? I need NvN experience :<


^_^ Well I personally like keeping high mana(One of the reasons I use wizzy so much). Each necromancer's build should be talored to the owners playstyle.
Mhmm, although you shouldn't count that 30str as life if you use belt swaps, if not then I suppose you can count using the stats.

It's okay :P

I see, well still even then I don't see them as to much of a threat =/ I know the rep would get annoying but I suppose it's just a matter of changing your play style. I still see bone wall as > fohers/sync. Although it is bm on east sadly.

I play UsEastNL right now.


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This post was edited by Scaryghoul on Aug 24 2010 03:40am
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Aug 24 2010 03:42am
very complete guide but

Quote (Royalton @ Aug 24 2010 02:34am)
Some dueling strategy missing/false. A bit outdated @ the strategy imo.


Vouch this ^^

anyway 9.5/10 guide =)
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Aug 24 2010 03:52am
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^_^ Well I personally like keeping high mana(One of the reasons I use wizzy so much). Each necromancer's build should be talored to the owners playstyle.
Mhmm, although you shouldn't count that 30str as life if you use belt swaps, if not then I suppose you can count using the stats.

It's okay :P

I see, well still even then I don't see them as to much of a threat =/ I know the rep would get annoying but I suppose it's just a matter of changing your play style.

I play UsEastNL right now.


hm, you are right. Sorry. I think that I have 157str on 96lvl :) So I should count it as 29str ;P

Against foh... Hm, dunno how it would be on other hardware but the highest fps I can reach is ~50 (when I see dru with all he's stuff on my screen... :<).
Anyway 1vs1 wasn't hard but res was what I needed. ;)

edit: I use 3bp 27+str amu for NvN :mellow:

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What a shitty-

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