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Jul 11 2010 01:48pm
Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Jul 11 2010 03:47pm)
what does ww dmg have to do with getting caught?


He seems to be taking points from different arguments and trying to put them together coherently. He's failing, though.


Quote (Ziecheik @ Jul 11 2010 03:47pm)
this.

although I agree with this thread kinda. having good physical damage is good. having no physical damage on whirl is bad.
20 venom is nice to have either way. going 9x gc is still viable not just cause it boosts venom alone but a number of sd skills. (even though gc/320 split is still what I prefer on ghosts vs all builds)

builds that use gt with just 20venom + max gcs are kinda bad. but nothing wrong with maxing venom on a build using good claws. no reason not to on a ghost anyways. <.<



hybrids are the worst of standard sin variants to go up vs necros anyways. ghosts or pure trappers both fare better in this matchup imo. either a combination of heavy hitting claws + venom + max mb, or traps + fireblast use + max mindblast. hybrids have whirl damage and traps but not quite as strong at either and no maxed mb support for chasing. so they are naturally worst vs necros, maxing mindblast on a hybrid does give chasing power but then the other skills aren't as strong as a pure build.


On a ghost, I max it.
On a hybrid, I don't.


Quote (Pari @ Jul 11 2010 03:47pm)
golem/bone armor tanks more before some low physical dmg ww start to dmg a nec, he will get away fast enough w/o talking dmg


Maybe you're just terrible on sin.

This post was edited by drt1245 on Jul 11 2010 01:50pm
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Quote (Pari @ Jul 11 2010 07:47pm)
a 102 fcr sin will catch a nec much better yes


which is why i mentioned I had a 102 build for necs/team duels.
80 more venom ww dmg shouldnt make or break the duel.
mindblast gives you a better overall sin in my opinion.... dmg/stun length/kills.

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He seems to be taking points from different arguments and trying to put them together coherently. He's failing, though.




On a ghost, I max it.
On a hybrid, I don't.




Maybe you're just terrible on sin.


haha y sure

ill stop commenting on this topic
your first post said enough go ahead and don't use venom ever again
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Quote (drt1245 @ Jul 11 2010 07:38pm)
I expected nothing less.




Not really, at least versus non-block nec. Triwhirl will break bone armor pretty quick, and then you should be doing plenty of damage with Suwayyah/Feral/Highlord's build.
And also, OW does a lot as-is.


65 fcr = epic fail, especialy vs nec LOL
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Jul 11 2010 01:53pm
Quote (Pari @ Jul 11 2010 03:52pm)
haha y sure

ill stop commenting on this topic
your first post said enough go ahead and don't use venom ever again


Making stuff up that I never said makes you look like an (even bigger) idiot.


Quote (harg @ Jul 11 2010 03:52pm)
65 fcr = epic fail, especialy vs nec LOL


Not really. Have fun with 102 hybrid/ghost.
Tri-whirl for 10 minutes to kill with OW & Venom is godly.

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Jul 11 2010 01:53pm
kind of null topic imo :S ghost should max it anyway, hybrid sucks either way and trapper doesnt use venom at all
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kind of null topic imo :S ghost should max it anyway, hybrid sucks either way and trapper doesnt use venom at all


Max MB hybrid is really fun build, IMO.
But yeah, I suppose.
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Quote (Pari @ Jul 11 2010 07:52pm)
haha y sure

ill stop commenting on this topic
your first post said enough go ahead and don't use venom ever again


venom should be used on kickers/ghosts and other varients that dont rely on traps. But i already posted above (my last post) why I think mindblast is a better investment.
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Jul 11 2010 01:56pm
Quote (tudey @ Jul 11 2010 08:53pm)
kind of null topic imo :S ghost should max it anyway, hybrid sucks either way and trapper doesnt use venom at all


hybs can be good if you use d2pk stuffs xDD
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Quote (drt1245 @ Jul 11 2010 07:53pm)
Making stuff up that I never said makes you look like an (even bigger) idiot.




Not really. Have fun with 102 hybrid/ghost.
Tri-whirl for 10 minutes to kill with OW & Venom is godly.


loled, you will never catch a descent nec with 65 fcr, it is already enough hard with 102 xD
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