Quote (MrHero @ 29 Apr 2010 02:07)
okay so let me summarize this then.
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lol
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fcr, fhr, dmg
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when you wrote that, did you actually even think before you flamed yet again I provided you with an excuse to prove you had the knowledge?
you clearly spend enough time writing this to have been able to prove my build totally wrong by now, but so far you have pointed out 3 things, 2 of them are your ignorance and lack of mathskills and actually KNOWLEDGE lacking too which I'll easily adress.
damage. you will do about ~8k max ww dmg while having 60% ow (max allowed on most legit duels), 20% deadly strike, 35% critical strike (which actually overlaps the deadly strikes double dmg so you do double dmg aproximately every 2 hits) and max ias frame, not to mention about 35k attack rating so you WILL hit all the time. if that doesn't count as damage, then I wonder what planet you live on. this while not using highlords. did you even know that ww frame is fixed to weapons ias and that highlords ias only adds when you zerk/conc? probably not. do you even know that you won't hit a faster frame while using highlords and zerk/conc? probably no there aswell. so what you got left is low attack rating/ressies just so you can go from 1 out of 2 hits getting double dmg to 3 out of 4 hits doing so, but oh wait, your ar is so low you don't hit as often so it doesn't really count! I'd rather go with ressies or ar as I see fit vs different classes then and finish them fast with my "low" 8k ww dmg, good stackres and unconventional approaches (yeah leap and namelock tele ww with 37 fcr frame can't catch up to any good elementalchar that has the equivelant to 105 fcr sorc teleportframe, but guess you didn't know that either).
fcr. the 30% fcr isn't meant to be used for teleporting around. which is why I insist that you use dual hoto scourges on switch. If you haven't played for a while I'll remind you that dual hoto = 80 fcr + 30% more = 105 fcr frame. this while still having some ww dmg. so your 37% fcr frame which you so clearly think is godly and you would probably pay through your nose for is right now obliterated as this build can outmanouver your build on fcr speed so much that you probably won't know what happened before you watched the slow motion recording after. I'm not saying that 37 fcr frame is bad, I'm just saying that it's not really better than this here if you learn to play with this build.
I'll give you a point on fhr tho. If you don't have the skills needed to avoid getting hit by ranged attacks till you get close enough for a ww you will need atleast 48% fhr frame. probably 86% too because if you can't manage that with so much life, max dr, good stackres and maxblock you should consider another char to play in the first place. however whirlwind doesn't abide to fhr frames. the ONLY time I've needed it was vs a mb bm trapper with so much ias that 86% wouldn't be enough. it stopped me from getting anywhere close when trying to ww out of it, so if this is what you're aiming for then I can guarantee you that alot of ressies life and damage will be sacrificed to get you there.
now like I said in the last post, unless you can comment beyond "lol" by giving a useful explaination to your statements I'll consider myself finished here, peace out.
2 of 3 things??
I will repeat it for you:
cube in inv for prebo? Not needed and nothing but a waste of time, if you are ANY good with barbs.
gulli is not worth the inventory space? Gulli should be the main helmet if you dont need the DR from coa or the 25fcr from griffon(or 30 from 08valk) or even the dex from arre to have maxblock.
maras? So you retard really are trying to tell me that you would take 1 skill and 30 res over 35% ds? "ok"
Suggesting metalgrid for bvas is already retarded, but suggesting maras for a bva is beyond all stupidity limits LOL There is NO AMULET that could come even close to HL for a barb. But how should a donkey like you know that ahha
kiras? Nothing but waste of space. If you need resistances, get some 20/11s.
40/9 ss? eld in ss>
str/dex on a bvc ring? Not needed. Mana/life/res/ar is all you will EVER need on a bvc/bva ring.
remaning skills into leap? Leap =max on a bva. ALWAYS! Again, how should a donkey like you know something as trivial as that...
Not to forget that you suggest mixing angelics with other rings LOLOL
35k attack rating? I guess its a must in your book, if you want to hit that pesky 1-2k def necros and sorcs
And since you claim that that 35k ar will make up for missing dmg boost from HL, what are going to do if you have to take angelics off?
How do you want to take down hammerdins or necros while you use maras???????????? inb4 "i shoot them down with widow, cuz gz dmg with enchant and gz ar" LOOOOOOL
To see you claiming you have always 60% ow leads to only one possible conclusion - you have no idea that mods are calculated separately for each weapon on a dual wielding barb. But nice that you tried to act big with your "did you even know that ww frame is fixed to weapons ias and that highlords ias only adds when you zerk/conc?" NO SHIT SHERLOCK??
Ever heard about items with "slows target by xx%"? No? THought so, clueless clown lol.
Btw, have you ever heard about hitchecks? Do you have ANY idea about the ww mechanics? I am fucking sure that you have NO clue about such things, since you recommend using shield vs necros, javas or windies HAHAHA
If you donkey think that you could catch ANYONE halfdecent with your shitty "105 fcr on bo slot" - you are even dumber than I thought LOL
Like I said, thats the most retarded thing you could possibly do with a barb. This is actually enough for me to say that you have NO CLUE about barbs, and that you are rather terribad than "one of top barbs on eu" ahaha
Where have you seen me talking about 37 fcr bp? If I remember correctly I laughed at your idiocy and that 105_fcr_on_boslot. Vs casters (necros, sorcs) you obviously should use 63fcr, if your ping allows it. If not - gulli is the way to go.
There is no "if you learn to play with this build" since you just CANT switch back fast enough from boslot to do anything. If you claim otherwise - you should rethink who lives in "a dreamworld".
I probably have overlooked few fails, but I dont want to school a brick like you for free anyway
I need more laugs from you clown, so please go on and explain what should a shield be good for vs boners, javazons or vs windies
While you are at it - feel free to explain what makes you think that you could triwhirl a smiter, or why would you use angelics vs hybsins or shapeshitters
This post was edited by darkkobra on Apr 28 2010 07:12pm