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The skill based damage multiplier is much greater than that of Whirlwind,
Higher yes, but compare speed: 2 fpa(effectively) ww vs 5 fpa frenzy. DPS is higher by ww if the whirls are sufficiently long that the delay between them can be discarded.
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Higher yes, but compare speed: 2 fpa(effectively) ww vs 5 fpa frenzy. DPS is higher by ww if the whirls are sufficiently long that the delay between them can be discarded.


alright, I will look at this a little more in depth since I know everyone wants to know
here's a comparison, I've shown all my work so you can pick out the flaws





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frenzy is better skill for early on, you have double swing available at clvl12 that is much more useful than using bash/stun/concentrate untill you can finally get ww at clvl30 only to succumb to its negative enhanced damage and huge mana costs

frenzy only needs 1 fast weapon while ww needs 2

frenzy works with CTC on strike/attack, allows you to use potions durring, allows you to target a single monster and always stay in range of it, has higher +%AR modifiers, allows you to easily switch between warcrys, low mana cost and double swing option allow for easier fights vs mana burns, and overall easier to use

however,trying to compare frenzy and ww is like comparing charged strike and lightning fury, they both have their advantages in certain situations, it depends on how the monsters are laid out, how many, and how strong they are
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Jan 4 2010 11:11am
Quote (MajinKaisa @ Jan 4 2010 08:02pm)
alright, I will look at this a little more in depth since I know everyone wants to know
here's a comparison, I've shown all my work so you can pick out the flaws

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff38/Crono2210/frenzyvswwdps.jpg



Further discussion

frenzy is better skill for early on, you have double swing available at clvl12 that is much more useful than using bash/stun/concentrate untill you can finally get ww at clvl30 only to succumb to its negative enhanced damage and huge mana costs

frenzy only needs 1 fast weapon while ww needs 2

frenzy works with CTC on strike/attack, allows you to use potions durring, allows you to target a single monster and always stay in range of it, has higher +%AR modifiers, allows you to easily switch between warcrys, low mana cost and double swing option allow for easier fights vs mana burns, and overall easier to use

however,trying to compare frenzy and ww is like comparing charged strike and lightning fury, they both have their advantages in certain situations, it depends on how the monsters are laid out, how many, and how strong they are


Exactly how much time you have on your hands?

This is beyond pathetic, and I'm not trying to insult here. Sorry.
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Exactly how much time you have on your hands?

This is beyond pathetic, and I'm not trying to insult here. Sorry.


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clearly less that you do..
that only took me about 15 minutes
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Jan 7 2010 01:14pm
didnt even read this one, but ive made frenzy baba by ur old guide...
so i vouch this one aswell, great guide, gj ;)
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Great effort! I like the guide. Didn't read it all in depth, but I have read and used the old one in the past; I liked it alot.

So many calculations, it's impressive. B)
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