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Dec 28 2009 08:11am
Quote (Atroce @ Dec 28 2009 01:39pm)
wizzy ㅎ_ㅎ


This.

Your light setup should be termed "fail setup".
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Dec 28 2009 08:15am
u fukkin suxs srsly wizardspeak is best soso wepon n u no y bitch? cuz its got mana res fcr no skillzcuz everything isnt dmg nappppppz sersly learn2play fgotsz
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u fukkin suxs srsly wizardspeak is best soso wepon n u no y bitch? cuz its got mana res fcr no skillzcuz everything isnt dmg nappppppz sersly learn2play fgotsz


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Dec 28 2009 08:27am
Light setup:

(If you want to keep TG)

I'd also take out Wizzy and use Branch there... +40 Life, + free socket, + no Dex Req. = like 100+ Life, same FCR, same effective Resistances (Light Sorcs will, like you, not pierce for more than -20%, so it's easy to keep the 85 Res up...) and more Dmg from +1 skill... there isn't anything more you could ask for...
At the same time, TG's = 20 STR = max. 10 less STR than you might get from a 10 FCR Craft (which I consider superior to Arach with the right stats), so there shouldn't be any problem equipping Spirit after switch when you already have items that give STR...

BTW. I just saw that you have 156 STR... why not use an eth Monarch? You say your Sorc is for SvS... it's not like the Monarch will break too fast there^^

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Dec 28 2009 08:28am
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Light setup:

(If you want to keep TG)

I'd also take out Wizzy and use Branch there... +40 Life, + free socket, + no Dex Req. = like 100+ Life, same FCR, same effective Resistances (Light Sorcs will, like you, not pierce for more than -20%, so it's easy to keep the 85 Res up...) and more Dmg from +1 skill... there isn't anything more you could ask for...
At the same time, TG's = 20 STR = max. 10 less STR than you might get from a 10 FCR Craft (which I consider superior to Arach with the right stats), so there shouldn't be any problem equipping Spirit after switch when you already have items that give STR...

BTW. I just saw that you have 156 STR... why not use an eth Monarch? You say your Sorc is for SvS... it's not like the Monarch will break too fast there^^


Suicide branch on a soso is suicide per se. But still > wizzy.
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Dec 28 2009 08:41am
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Suicide branch on a soso is suicide per se. But still > wizzy.


ImO this is your opinion and in my opinion yours is wrong :-)

in SvS, having Max Res = staple ofc...

This is easily done with the items you'd wear anyways, like Viper, your Circ, Spirit, charms, etc...

Everything you gain in top of that, aka +Max Res. or Absorb (which luckily co-exist on TG) is a HUGE Advantage ImO... so being able to equip a TG and still having 200 FCR is pretty damn nice. To manage this, you simply NEED 50 FCR from your weapon, which HotO cannot provide...

Wizzy has high Res that we don't need (vs. Light/Fire), high Mana that we even need less (as a Vita Sorc) and high Dex Reqs. we don't WANT... so I agree, Wizzy is not an option vs. Light.
Shard has enough Resists, but does neither give +skills, nor Life, nor anything else useful...

Branch = best option and - depending on personal taste - in many cases even superior to an Arach/HotO-build... you effectively trade +2 skills vs. 180 BO'able Life (in MY setup, not in the one in this guide)... UNLESS ofc you use the Oak charges, which I'd consider BM...

Also, I agree on the Boots part... Hots = 1 piece of sorb that is allowed on all chars (except ES Sorcs in some leagues I guess)... and they have it ALL:
+ Max. Fire Resists, + Fire Resists to actually make use of it and on top of that LIFE... gg boots for any setup vs. Fire...
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Dec 28 2009 08:42am
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ImO this is your opinion and in my opinion yours is wrong :-)




I agreed with your statement of s-branch over wizzy and you say I'm wrong? LOLLL

Btw, don't ever try to compare s-branch/wizzy to hoto. they don't even surpass eschuta, which is another dumb weapon choice.
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Dec 28 2009 08:47am
Quote (Synonym @ 28 Dec 2009 15:42)
I agreed with your statement of s-branch over wizzy and you say I'm wrong? LOLLL

Btw, don't ever try to compare s-branch/wizzy to hoto. they don't even surpass eschuta, which is another dumb weapon choice.


I said you were wrong with your statement that Branch is "suicide per se".

And still, ImO in SvS, a 200 FCR TG/Branch combination (attacking with either Fire or Light, doesn't really matter) played by the same player and vs. the same player in all matches will rule supreme vs. a 200 FCR HotO/Arach (NOT using charges ofc) combination duelling the same Light Sorc.

That's my point.

Ofc in general and in pubs and in SvA or whatever one might call it, HotO/Arach are a good combination (although I still consider the Life more important on a Vita-Sorc... she will have decent FB Dmg either way...), I'm not trying to say something else :-)

This post was edited by aneas on Dec 28 2009 08:47am
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Dec 28 2009 08:47am
what does imo mean ?
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Quote (aneas @ 28 Dec 2009 09:41)
ImO this is your opinion and in my opinion yours is wrong :-)

in SvS, having Max Res = staple ofc...

This is easily done with the items you'd wear anyways, like Viper, your Circ, Spirit, charms, etc...

Everything you gain in top of that, aka +Max Res. or Absorb (which luckily co-exist on TG) is a HUGE Advantage ImO... so being able to equip a TG and still having 200 FCR is pretty damn nice. To manage this, you simply NEED 50 FCR from your weapon, which HotO cannot provide...

Wizzy has high Res that we don't need (vs. Light/Fire), high Mana that we even need less (as a Vita Sorc) and high Dex Reqs. we don't WANT... so I agree, Wizzy is not an option vs. Light.
Shard has enough Resists, but does neither give +skills, nor Life, nor anything else useful...

Branch = best option and - depending on personal taste - in many cases even superior to an Arach/HotO-build... you effectively trade +2 skills vs. 180 BO'able Life (in MY setup, not in the one in this guide)... UNLESS ofc you use the Oak charges, which I'd consider BM...

Also, I agree on the Boots part... Hots = 1 piece of sorb that is allowed on all chars (except ES Sorcs in some leagues I guess)... and they have it ALL:
+ Max. Fire Resists, + Fire Resists to actually make use of it and on top of that LIFE... gg boots for any setup vs. Fire...


I will try branch vs Lightning but Wizzy is mostly for Cold.
And Synonym....
Read the title of my topic again. "SvS"
Eshuta and treks are when you do not need res in "SvA!<_<


Btw, vs Nova sorcs, we need wizzy.

This post was edited by DOHtrader on Dec 28 2009 08:48am
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