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Sep 15 2009 08:51am
hmm seems like it has been already put into pieces by gerkobra and co... no moar work for me :(

anyway, i kinda feel sorry for this guide's author, he wasted 3 years playing a shitty bvc and at least 1 hour writing a total shitty guide ...
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Sep 15 2009 09:45am
If anyone cares to test this in game like I have done so I will gladly show you the damage difference.


As for the flamming of the math, thats pretty funny that you say DS does not work the way I posted yet you support my DS calculation saying it is 100% Accurate. You are currently flamming the CS calculation which again has been taken directly off of Arreat Summit. Now at first I thought CS worked the same way you did until Arreat Summit updated their site and I went and tested it. "Beast" was recieving Double Damage just over 50% of the time ( 14 out of 25 Hits Trigged DD). This means CS works the exact way I stated. Again feel free to test it yourself just like I test everything. It is a very easy and simple test to do in game.

Now as for how Griefs damage works in PvP, it does not get calculated by Strength or ED gear what so ever. If you care to test this we can do that as well. I originally had a BvC with "Grief" and disliked the damage so began calculating how the PvP Damage works looking for better options hoping their might be one. This one does just that. If you care to do the countless tests I have done in game against many well known players on this forum, feel free to PM me. I will kill anything faster than you can.

And for the comment on Steelrends adding puny damage or something, they add exactly 681 Maximum Damage on my Barbarian. Once converted to Double Damage that is 1,362 Damage. Learn math please.

Finally, The comment on 7,406 Life - As stated in this guide I use a lot of gear others do not. e.g 182 life Belt vs. Arachnids Mesh, 2x FCR Rings versus 2 Raven Frosts ( totaling to another 205ish Life) War Travelers which adds another 40 to Life etc. The life eqauls to close to the same of most BvC's when they do not prebuff. Now I have alot of friends hitting 7.7K Life without Prebuff so of course I lack roughly 200 - 400 less life than they do but in the end the damage difference makes the build Superior.

Now for everyone flamming, I will gladly meet you in game and talk about the damage and do some testing if you want to show you how you are wrong. Even you Gar, Becca has already told you how I can kill her Assassin far faster than your Barbarian.
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Sep 15 2009 09:50am
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Sep 15 2009 10:01am
no um man, grief just adds 400 min n max damage
u have no idea what ur talking about
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Sep 15 2009 10:04am
hhahahah how horrible
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Sep 15 2009 10:11am
Quote (Retardation @ Tue, Sep 15 2009, 03:28am)
*Strength: 75 - 90 base

and 9 gcs?? how u get 7.4k life no buff


most bvcs full vita with 37  20life scs get around 7.4 without life from gear etc

dont c how u get 7.4 unless u use 60life rings/10lifeammy/100life belt or somthing.. even then 75-90 base stat pts is 300 to 360 BASE life


It's all theorycrafting. He doesn't have this barb.
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Sep 15 2009 10:18am
Quote (Endurack @ Tue, 15 Sep 2009, 18:45)
If anyone cares to test this in game like I have done so I will gladly show you the damage difference.


As for the flamming of the math, thats pretty funny that you say DS does not work the way I posted yet you support my DS calculation saying it is 100% Accurate. You are currently flamming the CS calculation which again has been taken directly off of Arreat Summit. Now at first I thought CS worked the same way you did until Arreat Summit updated their site and I went and tested it. "Beast" was recieving Double Damage just over 50% of the time ( 14 out of 25 Hits Trigged DD). This means CS works the exact way I stated. Again feel free to test it yourself just like I test everything. It is a very easy and simple test to do in game.

Now as for how Griefs damage works in PvP, it does not get calculated by Strength or ED gear what so ever. If you care to test this we can do that as well. I originally had a BvC with "Grief" and disliked the damage so began calculating how the PvP Damage works looking for better options hoping their might be one. This one does just that. If you care to do the countless tests I have done in game against many well known players on this forum, feel free to PM me. I will kill anything faster than you can.

And for the comment on Steelrends adding puny damage or something, they add exactly 681 Maximum Damage on my Barbarian. Once converted to Double Damage that is 1,362 Damage. Learn math please.

Finally, The comment on 7,406 Life - As stated in this guide I use a lot of gear others do not. e.g 182 life Belt vs. Arachnids Mesh, 2x FCR Rings versus 2 Raven Frosts ( totaling to another 205ish Life) War Travelers which adds another 40 to Life etc. The life eqauls to close to the same of most BvC's when they do not prebuff. Now I have alot of friends hitting 7.7K Life without Prebuff so of course I lack roughly 200 - 400 less life than they do but in the end the damage difference makes the build Superior.

Now for everyone flamming, I will gladly meet you in game and talk about the damage and do some testing if you want to show you how you are wrong. Even you Gar, Becca has already told you how I can kill her Assassin far faster than your Barbarian.


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Sep 15 2009 10:22am
by the way, its funny how one guide can contain so much wrong info ^^

like grief adding 400 damage that is not multiplied by anything, or like cbf slowing down the hitchecks in ww

topic bookmarked, ill look forward into reposting =))
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Quote (Faelwen @ Tue, 15 Sep 2009, 18:28)
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plz no gry cuz all the "mathematics" done in here hurt your eyes and brain ké ?
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