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Jan 28 2009 12:15pm
Quote (Hchooligan @ Wed, Jan 28 2009, 09:17am)
Damn.. like your choas baba build's smile.gif

i build one tho = )


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Jan 28 2009 02:54pm
Quote (312 @ Thu, Jan 29 2009, 07:15am)
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Do not think that I am criticising your build, I know it works, because I created a similar guide AGES ago, and now there are 3 other guides based on the same principle build: Berserk, I am just giving some feedback about this barb being specifically designed for Chaos (based on guide name).

My Demonbasher guide is based on all round PvM, can do the entire game WITHOUT:
Max Block (BUT i do have 136 dex with monarch)
DR.

I also included notes about "Block Lock" based on the Berserk Skill, I have only noticed this on occassion.
Also included to help people, information about using Concentration Skill in certain situations, this can help your build

I disagree on the excess amount of DR when doing Chaos, there are only 2 boss type monsters that Melee, this is Diablo and Pit Lords, as for the Knights, they can easily be howled away.

If you are in full game, like I use to be on many occassions, I would use Conc, if I am IM cursed, i tele into caster and let him cast Decrep, then kill with Berserk, kill casters first, then use Conc on rest, this gives mass defense, damage even though it is base 1 point skill.
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Wed, Jan 28 2009, 03:54pm)
Do not think that I am criticising your build, I know it works, because I created a similar guide AGES ago, and now there are 3 other guides based on the same principle build: Berserk, I am just giving some feedback about this barb being specifically designed for Chaos (based on guide name).

My Demonbasher guide is based on all round PvM, can do the entire game WITHOUT:
Max Block (BUT i do have 136 dex with monarch)
DR.

I also included notes about "Block Lock" based on the Berserk Skill, I have only noticed this on occassion.
Also included to help people, information about using Concentration Skill in certain situations, this can help your build

I disagree on the excess amount of DR when doing Chaos, there are only 2 boss type monsters that Melee, this is Diablo and Pit Lords, as for the Knights, they can easily be howled away.

If you are in full game, like I use to be on many occassions, I would use Conc, if I am IM cursed, i tele into caster and let him cast Decrep, then kill with Berserk, kill casters first, then use Conc on rest, this gives mass defense, damage even though it is base 1 point skill.


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Feb 1 2009 10:49am
iso this guide to replace my other in sticky please smile.gif
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Wed, Jan 28 2009, 04:54pm)
Do not think that I am criticising your build, I know it works, because I created a similar guide AGES ago, and now there are 3 other guides based on the same principle build: Berserk, I am just giving some feedback about this barb being specifically designed for Chaos (based on guide name).

My Demonbasher guide is based on all round PvM, can do the entire game WITHOUT:
Max Block (BUT i do have 136 dex with monarch)
DR.

I also included notes about "Block Lock" based on the Berserk Skill, I have only noticed this on occassion.
Also included to help people, information about using Concentration Skill in certain situations, this can help your build

I disagree on the excess amount of DR when doing Chaos, there are only 2 boss type monsters that Melee, this is Diablo and Pit Lords, as for the Knights, they can easily be howled away.

If you are in full game, like I use to be on many occassions, I would use Conc, if I am IM cursed, i tele into caster and let him cast Decrep, then kill with Berserk, kill casters first, then use Conc on rest, this gives mass defense, damage even though it is base 1 point skill.


while tele'ing through chaos you will easily be either amp'd or lower res'd
and if you're amp'd you need the extra dr%, not to mention it's not like chaos is clear and you tele up to the seal and hit the what, 5 monsters that spawn?

how about you do your build hcl and scl and if you 99 or achieve some other knowledgeable accomplishment then you will forever be better and more correct about chaos barbs than 312 is
otherwise your critiquing isn't needed since it's doing nothing, hence both sides of the argument are at a stalemate and have their own opinions
thus you're just spamming/influencing spam
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Quote (tag_ohai @ Tue, Feb 3 2009, 01:54pm)
while tele'ing through chaos you will easily be either amp'd or lower res'd
and if you're amp'd you need the extra dr%, not to mention it's not like chaos is clear and you tele up to the seal and hit the what, 5 monsters that spawn?

how about you do your build hcl and scl and if you 99 or achieve some other knowledgeable accomplishment then you will forever be better and more correct about chaos barbs than 312 is
otherwise your critiquing isn't needed since it's doing nothing, hence both sides of the argument are at a stalemate and have their own opinions
thus you're just spamming/influencing spam


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Please learn that these builds do not need to worry about the miniscule Amp/lower res curses in Chaos. They use HOWL or learn to teleport better.

As for seals, just Howl & kill boss, simple.

For your information:
I have made my Demonbasher in Hardcore and Softcore.
My HC character was a full ik barb, and worked tremendously well, never died, had a barb tele ammy on.
My Demonbasher guide and build was setup way before CS barbs came out, and the ORIGINAL CS Barb build is
QuQu & Mass_BnM, and Mass & I have discussed in the same manner.

On an end note, I did not criticise for the sake of it. I pointed out ideas that some viewers may take into consideration
because they do not play the character like myself, the creator of this guide or even you for that matter.

Remember, guides get stickied because of the number game and conversations held within, the more remarks/comments aid in this
fact, so this is not spamming, it is conversing, maybe you should read my heading of the post that you quoted:

Quote (izParagonzi @ Thu, Jan 29 2009, 09:54am)
Do not think that I am criticising your build, I know it works, because I created a similar guide AGES ago, and now there are 3 other guides based on the same principle build: Berserk, I am just giving some feedback about this barb being specifically designed for Chaos (based on guide name).


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Feb 2 2009 10:08pm
gross on switch u should have 105fcr
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Feb 3 2009 04:13pm
Quote (tag_ohai @ Mon, Feb 2 2009, 07:54pm)
while tele'ing through chaos you will easily be either amp'd or lower res'd
and if you're amp'd you need the extra dr%, not to mention it's not like chaos is clear and you tele up to the seal and hit the what, 5 monsters that spawn?

how about you do your build hcl and scl and if you 99 or achieve some other knowledgeable accomplishment then you will forever be better and more correct about chaos barbs than 312 is
otherwise your critiquing isn't needed since it's doing nothing, hence both sides of the argument are at a stalemate and have their own opinions
thus you're just spamming/influencing spam


thanks

basically im showing ppl how i got to 99 with the build, not how i mfed in priv games during my spare time.
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Feb 15 2009 06:41pm
Iso resticky
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