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#31

Oct 15 2004 09:39am

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Oct 15 2004 05:33pm

QUOTE (Stubu98 @ Oct 15 2004, 07:18 AM)

I'm have sucessful made a very good necro according to your guide. I still have so much trouble in defeating lightning trap assasin. that rape me every time. can someone plz give me a decent dueling strategy for dueling lightning assasins. thank you

Stu

Well thanks.

Anyways, the way to beat Trappers is like this:

Never go onto their screen. It will give them a chance at Mind Blast lock which will usually kill you. The pretty good trappers will have weapon block so not all of your shots will connect. When they're far away (1-2 screens) teleport back and make them off your automap. Then shoot bone spirits in their direction to cause Invisible Bone Spriit. If they don't let you and teleport toward you, then don't worry. You have more FCR. Now, If they do this, take advantage and teleport backwards and spear them.

If they're off screen but just barely, then teeth them to do minimal damage. This will help as it will lower the number of spirtis/spears required to kill them.

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Oct 16 2004 03:29am

i have similar nec, and if i keep to the strategy, then it is easy vs most trappers, but i find dual claw trappers pretty nasty as blocking like 50-60% of you spirits / spears if evil as well as gosu trap laying speed.

also my main problems now are:
sorcs (if they play defensively then many could beat me easy, if not then they will slip up and die most of time apart from fireball sorcs)
hammerdins (can kill most, but when they namelock tele it is evil where 2-3 hammers = you dead, but if they don't get lucky namelock because of my better fcr then i can normally beat)
windy druids ( i am 50/50 with these, and with recast bone armour i can go ok with much better fcr 86%fhr, but good ones, normally 99%fcr one's can kill me and/or tank me even with mixture of ibs / spear / teeth to kill minions)

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#34

Nov 1 2004 10:43pm

nice guide i started one of these necs today

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Nov 2 2004 02:17am

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Nov 16 2004 06:28am

I started a necro yesterday hes lvl 85 right now. I added no str and my Bone spear is lvl 52 at the moment. I think 7k dmg.

I'm still tweaking my gear but tihs is how it is:

+2 nec//20 fcr//20 fhr//14 all res tiara
Enigma breast plate
+2 nec, 19% fcr amulet
+8 bonespear wand with +1 lower res
+4 Bone spear splendor with +1 lower res
Blood loop + Bitter band rings
200% 20 str marrows
Arachnids
Trang gloves

So with this setup I have 129 fcr which gets me to the breakpoint, and huge damage (7k spear, owns shit)
The only thing i'm having trouble with as of now is my resists. Even with my 9x 20/5's I have all my resists about 45 which is not acceptable. So what I think i'll do is get wizzy gloves and use my .08 visc + get 4x pnb 12% fhr and rest with 30+ life. I'll also try for a +2/20/2 nec helm but those are quite hard to aquire.

With that setup I'll have about lvl 51 spear, 3.2k life, and max all resists by far.
Should own by the time im done with it.

Decent guide by the way, but It is quite cookie cutter.

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#37

Nov 16 2004 08:14am

how much dmg spear should id o with glitch and 10xpnbs hoto enigma shako etc.?

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#38

Nov 18 2004 07:45pm

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This is nearly impossible, as with just a click of a button, they will kill you. If they charge straight at you, just spam spirits in their direction. But if they play defensively, you need to go in and shoot from behind them, and in the meantime, shoot spirits to trap them. This is a very hard duel versus a good FOH Paladin... but with some luck (well, actually, a LOT of luck) you can win.

these are extremly easy for me, u named ur skills but those are all done at like lvl 80 or so all u need is 1 point in skele and 1 in mage, with ur gear u can summon 12 skele's. those will get targeted with foh ....foh are easy duel decent guide tho

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Nov 19 2004 04:28am

I stopped reading after this:

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WW Barbs are easy. Teleport away and wait for them to WW. Decrepify, then GG.
Decrepify decreases their damage severely, something like 50%.

1) Decrepify decreases my barbs dmg about 100-200. Thats nothing. It also makes me slow -> you will stay in ww range longer -> I will hit you more times. Simple as that. (how fast you move while whirling is based on runspeed, nothing else)

2) You obviously haven't met a really good barb. Good bvc-barbs uses botd+beast and 40% fcr = 10 fps casting. Thats only one frame slower than you which means that sooner or later the barb will catch you. Since ww is framebased and makes the first attack after 4 frames it means that a barb only need 10+4 frames to land a tele-ww on you. If you do anything else besides constant teleporting the barb WILL catch you, since you need 18 frames to attack and tele away.

3) You dont have max block. Good barbs do about 50/50 with good necs, assuming they have max block. You (or any char for that matter) simply cannot beat a really good barb consistently without max block.

Edit: oh and by the way, against foh:ers just stack some resist (about 150-180 depending on facets). Thats what I did on my nec, and no foher could ever beat me. If you dont care about bm, just decrepify, use walls, tele on top and spear/spirit/teeth.

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#40

Nov 19 2004 10:53am

you should have a better strategy for fightning ww assassins. my ww assassin can take almost any pubby necromancer and I have been able to kill 3k life necros. you should really research how to avoid traplock, the range of dragon flight, what to do against teleporting ww sins.

same goes with kickers...a 75% ED, -55% poison resist kicker will rock a nec that tries to stand and lock them with spirits. you gotta play major defensively, never ever let them appear on your screen and keep them at a distance on your map. Assume a nec has 100% poison resists, with the -resists from death's web, that brings the nec to 45% resists. If the kicker knows what she is doing, she will have about level 43 venom, bramble, and trangs. With a single dragonflight, the nec will take 612 venom damage, and 500 or so physical damage. One kick will take away over 1k life. Most people who read this will not be able to afford pnb lifers and they are looking at a 2k life nec.

Other than your guide dealing with assassins (underestimating their abilities) this is a solid guide. Good job, man.

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